Upgraded brakes?

[DvS_DSM]

I've got a 91 tsi awd and looking to replace the brakes here shortly. Everything will be replaced including the lines. I've heard the 93-94 have larger brakes that are direct bolt ons for my car, is this true? If so, what would be the best upgrade for my car. I drive aggressive but very little track time, mainly a daily driver. If you could just give me some ideas on pads, rotors, ss braided lines. Thanks guys!
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Matt

[BlackEclipse]

I did the dual piston upgrade on my car.

Road Race sells the kit:

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/eclbrakes.htm

-> With Metal Master pads and Power Slot rotors (recommended)

It is about a hundred dollars more than I paid for the parts but you will save yourself a lot of hassles just buying it from Road Race. I wouldn't just take parts off of junk cars and stick them on your car. If you are driving that car hard you need something reliable (newer or rebuilt) to keep from getting killed.

You really need to replace you dust shields as well since the kit does not come with them. Your old dust shields are too small and probably all rust too. Buy the dust shields from www.partznet.com. They are easy to install - just cut them, bend it, twist it on, straighten out, and bolt on.

http://www.columbusdsm.com/resources/knowledge_base/kb_00019_dust_shields.htm

There might be a difference in types of ends of SS brake lines in the way they attach to the caliper. Make sure you get ones that go on the 93-94 cars with dual-piston calipers. SS brake lines give you SUPER reaction time!!!! As soon as your foot touches the pedal you are pretty much starting to brake.

[1lowDSM]

lloks like im getting new front rotors :)

[DvS_DSM]

Alright, sweet man for the help. Just a quick question, because I am upgrading the lines and to more powerful brakes, will this be hard on the mechanical pumps or whatever that power the brakes? Like will the new brakes cause them to overwork and possibly cause problems?

Thankss
Matt

[BlackEclipse]

no

[DvS_DSM]

Awesome, thanks a lot. Now where should I go about getting them installed or does anyone want to help me out for some dough or maybe pizza and beer/pop? etc.

[Funkdariaa]

You might want to have someone who has done brakes before help you. This will especially making bleeding the system easier. But I think a brake job is the perfect not too easy, yet not too hard job to start doing (real) work on cars with. :beer

Have fun geting the old stuff off. :cuss :p
~signed, someone who needs to do the brakes on his 92 soon and is not looking forward to it at all.

[sapper]

it's really easy to do break work you should not need hlep. just start doing it and you will figure it out in no time. I worked at midas in high school thats how I learned. you will need someone to press while you bleed but thats about it.

[BlackEclipse]

It only takes one person to bleed brakes. Buy some clear vinyl tubing from Lowes and a dollar on one of those pint size plastic paint cups in the paint section. Cut off maybe 18 inches of tubing and tape one end to the rim of the cup so the tubing touches the bottom of the cup. The other end goes on the nipple on the caliper. Place the cup somewhere above the nipple. Take the cap off the brake reservoir and top it off. Loosen the nipple. Pump the brake maybe 3 times. Top off reservoir, Check for bubbles in the tube. repeat until you see no bubbles. Then tighten the nipple back.

You should only have to bleed the front brakes. That is all that I did on my car when I swapped the front calipers out. But your car is kind of old so maybe you need to bleed the entire system. Then you start at the right rear..then left rear....then front right...then left front. Clue: the brake fluid should not be black or gray or green or blue or brown.

By some of that Valvoline Synthetic brake fluid that is Dot 3 & Dot 4 compliant. Buy the large bottle. Never leave the cap off of it becuase it absorbs moisture from the air and ruins it.

[EvolvedDSM]

Mine's blue :D

Mityvac ownz you

[DvS_DSM]

Well, it looks like I will be going with all stock replacements because of $$

If i go with the upgraded fronts, SS lines, new rotors and pads in the rear, we're talking upwards for $810 plus dust shields.

But if i just replace all the rotors and pads, and get new SS lines, we're only talking about $550 plus dustshields.

I just don't have that extra 300 right now and I figured since all i do is aggressive daily driving and maybe the 1/4 mile every once in a while in this car, it should be ok. I've got my other car to auto-x in.

Thanks for all your help guys in making my decision.

Later
Matt

[ucsigep]

a cheap upgrade would be Brembo blanks and axxis pads. Do a search on the board, guys have gotten them pretty cheap, actually.

[BlackEclipse]

Why were you considering replacing the brakes to begin with? If you do not get a bad pulsating effect under braking then don't touch the front rotors. How much pad is left on the brakes? Is it metal against metal yet? Why even bother replacing brake pads?

Do you really need to install new rotors or pads in the rear or are you doing that just for the sake of doing it?

[V8hunter]

EDIT: nevermind, its useless to speak my mine on this board

[manticore33]

Stock DSM right here! Absolutely no modifications at all.

[EvolvedDSM]

I always hated spending money on my stock DSMs ;) Minimal maintenance is where it's at. Save your money and spend it wisely on something else like a Honda.