I/C Pipes and BOV

[DvS_DSM]

I'm looking to purchase some I/C pipes for my 1g, are they all the same size? Or which should I look towards and which should I stay away from? If i buy a certain kind of UICP, can i buy a different brand LICP?

Also, which BOV that vents to the atmosphere seals the best? I have heard the HKS SSQV, but would like to know more.

Thanks.

Also if anyone has any of this stuff for sale, PM me.

Matt

[DQ Driver]

NO

dejon, buschur, brode

YES

if you plan on gettin a different BOV, put this in consideration before ordering your UICP becuase you can order it pre-flanged for the one you choose. WHOOSH!

[GSXLR8]

or if you went with a pipe flanged for a 1g bov and later decided to go with the SSQ, given that you have clearance to add some height to the flange, I or even shumway could get ahold of an adaptor for ya

[DvS_DSM]

Are you sayin no to the sizes question? And yes to the fact that i can purchase different pipers for upper and lower? Also, should i look at upgrading my IC, to either a bigger SMIC or a FMIC if the biggest POSSIBLE turbo that i will get is a small 16g? I haven't even decided if i will upgrade to the turbo, it will either be 14b or small 16g.

[EvolvedDSM]

Most are 2 1/2", but I've seen 2 1/4" (Extreme) and 3" or larger (custom). You need to decided on intercooler location and BOV brand before you purchase these as it may dictate how the pipes are routed and the aforementioned flange.

[Mike C]

You should also consider recirculating your BOV back into the intake tract if you want your car to run good. I guess its not cool though :bash

[DvS_DSM]

I wasn't saying anything about being cool or not, why do you have to be such an ass alll the time? I was just asking a few questions so that I could possibly gain some knowledge from this and not have to do something over. I would like to do it right, the first time. The reason I asked for a good sealing BOV is so that I can help eliminate most problems that come with venting. My car is an auto, so therefore because there is no shifts I thought possibly it might be so bad on my car. But if this isn't a smart idea, then I'm glad I found out now. I know I need to decide what IC to go with, but that depends on a few others things.

Thanks
Matt

[DvS_DSM]

I don't claim to know everything or much at all, and I'm not saying what you said isn't helpful, but the way you say things, and stuff, it just is beyond me I guess. I thought we were trying to clean up this club a bit, well i guess I just think of it a different way. Thats cool tho.

Quick question if i could.... If i only plan on upgrading to a 14b or possibly a 16g, would the stock SMIC be sufficient, or what should i upgrade to? This will help me decide what pipes to get and such.

Is this a good buy?
http://www.dejontool.com/DSM-1g%20FIC.htm
The 2g's put together to put a FMIC together? Doesn't sound like bad buy because it comes with hard pipes, IC, and couplings.


THanks a lot guys

Matt

[Mike C]

Do I know you? Have we ever met?

[Iwishiwascool]

http://www.columbusdsm.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=42852#42852

[DvS_DSM]

I'm not sure if we have met or not, if not I look forward to meeting you this coming sunday at the g2g.

MODS: Please lock this thread because I already got all the useful info I could and I think this is going nowhere.

Thanks
Matt

[Mike C]

My comment about recirculating the BOV was a not a direct attack on you. I meant that most people want to vent their BOV because it sounds louder and its the ricey thing to do. I could give a crap less about rice and I'm all about performance. If you want your car to run its best, you should be recirculating it(auto trans or not). I was giving you the info so that you can decide what is best for your application, not to insult you. The reference to "cool" was an attempt to show you why the average DSM guy has their BOV hooked up wrong. Believe what you want. :)

[Mike C]

As you wish :)

[ucsigep]

I have mine hooked up "wrong." What are you trying to say, Mike? I'm a lowly "average" dsmer? Is that it? I'll cut you....

No, I have no issues with mine being vented, I just have to tap the gas when I come to a light so that it doesn't stall out on me. It's a bit of a PITA, but I am not able to recirculate mine because of how it fits.

Basically the reason is this. Your engine "counts" the air coming in at your MAS. When you let off the gas, the BOV opens, and recirculates the air back thru the system. This air has already been counted, and it is supposed to help keep the turbo spooled. If you vent, the ECU thinks that air is still there, so it adds fuel for said air. However, the air is not there, thus you have a lot of extra fuel in the engine.

My findings from watching my disco party gauge, the extra fuel doesn't stall the motor, it just picks up the extreme-rich condition in the o2 sensor, and doesn't dump more fuel in. At this point, it's actually counting the right amount of air, but it doesn't have enough fuel, and it goes extremely lean and dies. By adjusting my AFC, it now doesn't stall as long as I blip the gas ever so slightly when I'm coming to a light or whatever, or if I just let the car decelerate while still in gear.