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nvr2fast4me
05-16-2004, 03:07 PM
Have any of you guys heard about the boycott thats going on this Wednesday? How, exactly, is this supposed to lower the gas prices?
~Dan

EvolvedDSM
05-16-2004, 03:27 PM
It's not--just another futile attempt from some whiney-ass bitches. If you don't like the gas prices here in the US, just move to another f-ing country :beer

MiSFiTz
05-16-2004, 03:55 PM
Someone just posted this on my forums...

IT HAS BEEN CALCULATED THAT IF EVERYONE IN THE UNITED STATES DID NOT
PURCHASE A DROP OF GASOLINE FOR ONE DAY AND ALL AT THE SAME TIME, THE
OIL COMPANIES WOULD CHOKE ON THEIR STOCKPILES.

AT THE SAME TIME IT WOULD HIT THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY WITH A NET LOSS OF
OVER 4.6 BILLION DOLLARS WHICH AFFECTS THE BOTTOM LINES OF THE OIL
COMPANIES.

THEREFORE MAY 19TH HAS BEEN FORMALLY DECLARED "STICK IT TO THEM" DAY
AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS NATION SHOULD NOT BUY A SINGLE DROP OF GASOLINE
THAT DAY.

THE ONLY WAY THIS CAN BE DONE IS IF YOU FORWARD THIS E-MAIL TO AS MANY
PEOPLE AS YOU CAN AND AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN TO GET THE WORD OUT.

WAITING ON THIS ADMIINSTRATION TO STEP IN AND CONTROL THE PRICES IS NOT
GOING TO HAPPEN. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REDUCTION AND CONTROL IN PRICES
THAT THE ARAB NATIONS PROMISED TWO WEEKS AGO?

REMEMBER ONE THING, NOT ONLY IS THE PRICE OF GASOLINE GOING UP BUT AT
THE SAME TIME AIRLINES ARE FORCED TO RAISE THEIR PRICES, TRUCKING
COMPANIES ARE FORCED TO RAISE THEIR PRICES WHICH EFFECTS PRICES ON
EVERYTHING THAT IS SHIPPED. THINGS LIKE FOOD, CLOTHING, BUILDING
MATERIALS, MEDICAL SUPPLIES ETC. WHO PAYS IN THE END? WE DO!

WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. IF THEY DON'T GET THE MESSAGE AFTER ONE DAY,
WE WILL DO IT AGAIN AND AGAIN.

SO DO YOUR PART AND SPREAD THE WORD. FORWARD THIS EMAIL TO EVERYONE YOU
KNOW. MARK YOUR CALENDARS AND MAKE MAY 19TH A DAY THAT THE CITIZENS OF
THE UNITED STATES SAY "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH"

Caine
05-16-2004, 04:10 PM
Sorry Jamie I disagree, It is not right for us to have to pay 2.05 at the pump. As of right now Im being payed to drive to work. I don'tmake enough money and my truck is really bad on gas. I don't know if I'm gonna strike but it pisses me off and something needs to be done. I know for a fact that gas prices do not and should not be this high. I was told a day before it went over 2.00 and I filled my truck up. If you wanna strike do it, but something needs to be done. I have heard that it will top off at 3.00 a gallon. Might as well go buy race gas.

MrBlunt
05-16-2004, 06:51 PM
if you think its bad here head over to europe. buy a diesel and stop whining

jplong
05-16-2004, 06:52 PM
dont buy on wed but twice as much on tuesday....you guys are simple.

Caine
05-16-2004, 07:10 PM
Do you think maybe the price of living is higher over in europe? I bet you it is. All Im saying is there is no need to pay 2.00 for gas. I have been told this by people who work for the gas company that their price is almost the same as always, and they are just trying to make more money. Its kind of like having to over pay for an air filter, would you pay more for something and you knew you didnt have too. Think about it that way. And Im not that one crying, Im just saying there is no reason. Thats it.

M 4 L k i 3 R
05-16-2004, 07:56 PM
Ok, the idea behind this is simple. If no one buys gas on Tuesday, the empty tanks will still be there on Wednesday and people will go to fill up then. The amount of gas that is bought is still the same just a day later.

EvolvedDSM
05-16-2004, 07:59 PM
Read everyone's argument here: http://www.columbusdsm.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5467

And my exclamation point: http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/price.html (note that these prices are dated by a few months and have probably escalated)

Here's another one for you: Gas prices today are still cheaper than they were circa 1980 once you factor in inflation, etc...

So, don't buy gas on Wednesday, but just remember, you'll have to get it either Sun, Mon, Tues, Thurs, Fri or Sat because you're still doing absolutely nothing to change the way you live. Your dependence on this form of convenience is nothing but a fabrication of your own lifestyle. Yet, you complain about it like it's a god-given right. Here's an idea... sell that POS gas-guzzling truck/SUV/whatever and buy yourself a top of the line bicycle. Don't worry, there's heated gloves and whatnot available when the weather gets cold. Besides, you could use the exercise and the exposure to the outdoors.

I'd hate to hear what you sissies would sound like if you had to pay the prices out here. We're at $2.30 for regular and $2.70 for Premium (that's 91 BS Premium mind you). I drive a car everyday in order to get paid and while it would be a convenience to pay less, I don't complain a single bit. It's simply the price I pay to live the lifestyle that I desire.

Bring on $3.00 a gallon :thumb

bitches

Iwishiwascool
05-16-2004, 08:11 PM
opec controls oil prices more than the oil companies themselves, though as a result of the restrictions on supply commanded by opec, Oil monopolies are claiming record profits.

Besides that, there are 37%(not made up) more autos in China this YEAR. That is a huge increase distributed over a population that humongous. China is becoming a world power and is beginning to compete for the limited resources. Break out your Keynesian econ book and it will tell you whats about to happen with the prices of many utilities we take for granted.

So Im not really sure who you are all trying to blame... but you cant really fight the laws of economics.

BlackEclipse
05-16-2004, 08:16 PM
I don't mind these prices. I hope people driving those gas guzzlers choke on their tears. This is EXACTLY what this country needs to force people to buy more fuel efficient cars and to FORCE automakers to stop coming out with more and more powerful cars each year that guzzle even more gas.

example:

The Acura TL: WTF does someone need with 270 HP on basically a family car? I think they are really nice looking cars but holy shit, make it 160 HP at most and make it get 40 mpg on the highway.

I may like VW's but they are notorious for getting mediocre gas mileage unless you buy their diesel. Mitsubishi Lancer owns all of VW's on gas mileage. The only VW that gets better mileage is the Diesel - but diesel is not a gas, it's an oil!!!! So, it gets good oil mileage.

koritina
05-16-2004, 08:20 PM
Break out your Keynesian econ book and it will tell you whats about to happen with the prices of many utilities we take for granted.

But mine is a Rohlf Jr. Econ book...

OWNDJOO
05-16-2004, 08:26 PM
well, technically, gasoline and diesel are closer than you think. different types of fuel are formed at different temperatures/purifications from crude oil. there's kerosene, diesel and then gasoline. plus other "hydrocarbons". so basically gasoline is purified diesel.

BlackEclipse
05-16-2004, 08:47 PM
I am getting close to taking the plunge and buying a brand new VW Jetta TDI.

Reasons:

1) I just want a new car. I am getting tired of driving beaters that constantly need fixed.
2) I want A/C. Now.
3) I want someone else to work on my car when something goes wrong with it.
4) My current VW Jetta gets 22 mpg city OR highway. That kind of sucks considering my Eclipse has 3X the horsepower and gets better than that.
5) I want a car that has an engine that doesn't get crankwalk.

IWANTSOMEBOOST
05-16-2004, 11:14 PM
Your dependence on this form of convenience is nothing but a fabrication of your own lifestyle. Yet, you complain about it like it's a god-given right. Here's an idea... sell that POS gas-guzzling truck/SUV/whatever and buy yourself a top of the line bicycle. Don't worry, there's heated gloves and whatnot available when the weather gets cold. Besides, you could use the exercise and the exposure to the outdoors.


bitches


+1 for that...i ride my bike to work allmost every day(mind you in the rain i will tend to lean twords the car)...and when i do drive, i drive more conservative and try to conserve as much as i can...i also stoped going on all those little short jaunts to krogers and the like

Caine
05-17-2004, 12:22 AM
Diesel Is a by product of Gas. And some of us may not be able to go out and buy a more fuel effecient car. Trust me I want out of my damn truck.

harry's94tsi
05-17-2004, 05:36 AM
Diesel Is a by product of Gas. And some of us may not be able to go out and buy a more fuel effecient car. Trust me I want out of my damn truck.

hrmmm i wonder how fuel efficient that bike of yours would be?

if i had to choose a brand new car for the next ten years it would be....... an EVO prob. BUT a close second would be the new Prius. i don't know why, or how but it just looks decent. sure not sporty, or even nice, just different. but the obvious main draw is the gas mileage and the fact that its not an ABSOLUTE POS when it comes to performance like most gas/elect. hybrids can be.

side note/ jennifer aniston and her BF brad pitt bought matching Prius' to go to award shows in. i guess it's to show how "green friendly" they are. no joke, their parked next to there matching mercedes G500 sport utes. in their garage. :rolleyes

EvolvedDSM
05-17-2004, 09:49 AM
Diesel Is a by product of Gas. And some of us may not be able to go out and buy a more fuel effecient car. Trust me I want out of my damn truck.

hrmmm i wonder how fuel efficient that bike of yours would be?

if i had to choose a brand new car for the next ten years it would be....... an EVO prob. BUT a close second would be the new Prius. i don't know why, or how but it just looks decent. sure not sporty, or even nice, just different. but the obvious main draw is the gas mileage and the fact that its not an ABSOLUTE POS when it comes to performance like most gas/elect. hybrids can be.

side note/ jennifer aniston and her BF brad pitt bought matching Prius' to go to award shows in. i guess it's to show how "green friendly" they are. no joke, their parked next to there matching mercedes G500 sport utes. in their garage. :rolleyes

HA! That's almost as good as Arnold promoting "alternative fuel" (aka Hydrogen-powered) vehicles at the state capital on Earth Day and then leaving the ceremony in his gov't issued (read: heavier, less fuel effecient than the standard 12 MPG) Ford Excursion.

Prius this, Prius that... get the damn Civic Hybrid. At least it looks normal ;)

BlackEclipse
05-17-2004, 10:17 AM
Even with a regular Honda Civic, you would be doing the world a favor. They get pretty good gas mileage already.

Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla, VW Jetta Diesel were the 3 cars I was comparing for my next car purchase. I guess you could throw the Mitsubishi Lancer in there too but I think the regular Lancer is butt ugly.

EvolvedDSM
05-17-2004, 10:18 AM
Get the wagon :thumb

BlackEclipse
05-17-2004, 10:32 AM
I have test driven the VW Jetta TDI Wagon. I think it looks better if you lower it. But for a wagon, the back seat area is too small. The seat is too high which puts your head up into the ceiling and there is not enough legroom. My 87 Jetta has more interior room.

EvolvedDSM
05-17-2004, 10:44 AM
Not that wagon silly. This one:
http://www.mitsucars.com/images/2004/lsb/photos/normal_9_ex.jpg

manticore33
05-17-2004, 01:26 PM
Public Transit.

We need good public transit, as in a tram or some such over the current method. Problem solved.

Most of the time I would rather use a "transportation" service over the car. Save the car for fun and play.

We can all thank GM.

1. Lobbied to build freeways.
2. Bought out electric trolleys and shut them down.

BlackEclipse
05-17-2004, 02:41 PM
Lancer Wagon SUCKS at gas mileage. They don't offer a 5-speed and they only offer the larger engine. So, 22/28 is the mileage. Plus the car is 9 inches longer than a VW Jetta Sedan which is 9 inches I cannot spare in my garage.

The regular Lancer with the 2.0 and 5-speed gets 28/35 which is quite acceptable.

92tsiawd
05-17-2004, 03:05 PM
I'm very seriously thinking about getting a hybrid for weekly driving.

Model Type City/Highway mileage Annual fuel cost

Honda Insight 60/66 mpg $334

Toyota Prius 60/51 mpg $382

VW Golf 38/46 mpg $494

I think I would buy the Toyota, it's a very boring car but I would be buying it for MPG. It's also bigger than the Honda. I'm spending about $400 a month on gas now, I figure I can cut my cost to $120. More money for the 1g. That saving about $3360 a year. Worth a thought. I'm going to test drive a couple of these this weekend :D

BlackEclipse
05-17-2004, 03:46 PM
The base Honda Hybrid does not have A/C the last time I checked. And that kind of kills that mpg.

I've heard stories that the VW TDI can get close to 60mpg on roads that are 45-55mph.

At least there is a whole support group behind the VW TDI's: www.tdiclub.com

EvolvedDSM
05-17-2004, 04:32 PM
I'm very seriously thinking about getting a hybrid for weekly driving.

Model Type City/Highway mileage Annual fuel cost

Honda Insight 60/66 mpg $334

Toyota Prius 60/51 mpg $382

VW Golf 38/46 mpg $494

I think I would buy the Toyota, it's a very boring car but I would be buying it for MPG. It's also bigger than the Honda. I'm spending about $400 a month on gas now, I figure I can cut my cost to $120. More money for the 1g. That saving about $3360 a year. Worth a thought. I'm going to test drive a couple of these this weekend :D

Hello? Civic Hybrid...

WikdTSi
05-17-2004, 05:34 PM
http://www.wired.com/news/autotech/0,2554,63413,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1


HA HA HA

92tsiawd
05-17-2004, 06:36 PM
Thats why I would get the toyota :D

ucsigep
05-17-2004, 10:27 PM
Public Transit.

We need good public transit, as in a tram or some such over the current method. Problem solved.


http://www.cotafasttrax.com/

This would be a step in the right direction. Look at Cleveland. The Rapid is a great way to get around town, I know I've used it several times when I've been up there. What better way to get downtown to the bars and home without having to drive, or pay top dollar for a cab.

I just got back from St. Louis, and they have a similar operation, works well. And of course, Chicago has the El, Vegas has a tram system, NY has the subway, etc. etc. etc.

IAmSlow
05-18-2004, 02:05 PM
I'd stick to my 405 hp gas-saver V8 :) It gets 31 mpg on highway.

nicodemus13
05-19-2004, 01:04 AM
Here we go. A buddy of mine works at a gas company, as I had previously seen posted, and it is OPEC that controlls the prices going up as they are, and the gas companies are paying the same amount as they were a few weeks ago, and as they were last year. I hear 3.00 a gal is not far off. Piss on that. I am buying a bicycle and peddling myself around. Some of us can not afford a new car, and can not afford to not drive as the JOB is 40 minutes away.

Now onto another view of this subject. The presidential debates. I do want to hear about the war, and elder people, and school, ect... but I also want to hear who the hell is going to do something about the gas prices. The cost of living in Europe is much higher than it is here.

As everything else has increased in price (milk, cheese) I suppose gas is going to as well. But 3.00 a gal is a bit much. I know that a lb. of cheese at the store runs like 3.50. But anyways, that is beside the point.

I voted for GWBush, even though he bankrupt 2 of his own companies. I eventually see the United States going back into an economic depression. Some people just can not afford the cost of living...and gas as well. Anyways, there is my 2 cents.

EvolvedDSM
05-19-2004, 10:03 AM
The President isn't going to do jack shit about the price of gas as long as OPEC is around. Sure they could reduce the taxes or something, but they'll only hit you up for it somewhere else to make up the revenue.

The cartel is one of the worst and they'll eventually get so greedy that someone will cheat and put more than thier alloted share of petroleum on the market. Others will notice and do the same. Pretty soon they'll be an overabundance of crude out there and prices will drop. ECON 200

Are you whiners ready for this? Milk is going up 50 cents a gallon... F-me :cuss Actually, I could care less. Milk is yummy and delicious and is worth every penny. If you don't like the cost of milk, just go buy some gas... it's cheaper :thumb

F GW and the horse he rode in on... and his brother... and his dad.

EvolvedDSM
05-19-2004, 11:40 AM
I'm off to work and to fill up my gas tank.

:thumb

Villision_Motorsports
05-19-2004, 01:19 PM
All I know is that the truckers at my work said that when the tankers stop running that they also will stop until the gas comes down because most of the truckers I work with are indapendent drivers so they are hard pressed about this gas.

EvolvedDSM
05-19-2004, 11:51 PM
Ahhhhhhhhhhh.....

That was the best $23.79 I ever spent :)

talon guy
05-20-2004, 12:36 AM
i bought gas also :down a whole $15 went into the tank :beer

DQ Driver
05-20-2004, 12:38 AM
$8.75 a gallon beotches

harry's94tsi
05-20-2004, 02:30 AM
i bought gas today, but it was after midnight so technically i bought it on the 20th, all 20.76$ of it.