View Full Version : Finally 11's!!!
evorx7man
10-07-2004, 12:52 AM
Well, I got to see some of you at Marion Raceway, I think u guys all took off early, not to much fun to spectate. Anyhow got the Evo down into the 11's finally. 11.77 being the best along with a 11.79 and 11.96
Here at the slips:
http://dieseldigital.net/images/100_4730.JPG
http://dieseldigital.net/images/100_4731.JPG
Andrew
talon guy
10-07-2004, 12:56 AM
good job man, keep up the good work:beer
SmokinEAGLE
10-07-2004, 02:02 AM
weeeeeeeee.
Gunner
10-07-2004, 03:13 AM
Shit looks photoshopped to me. :confused
MrBlunt
10-07-2004, 09:24 AM
I saw the two passes. Good job andrew. Imagine what you could do at a nice track. Now spray the bitch and start owning some ls6's.
Mike C
10-07-2004, 09:31 AM
I saw your 11.79 right before we left. It looked like a near perfect pass shifting wise. Great job. Are you still on the stock clutch?
evorx7man
10-07-2004, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by Mike C
I saw your 11.79 right before we left. It looked like a near perfect pass shifting wise. Great job. Are you still on the stock clutch?
Thanks, I wasn't sure what time u guys left. I am curently using the Exedy Twin Disc, I love it...it launches the car so nicely when the driver operates it properly:D
criitter7
10-07-2004, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by evorx7man
Thanks, I wasn't sure what time u guys left. I am curently using the Exedy Twin Disc, I love it...it launches the car so nicely when the driver operates it properly:D
isnt that the insanely expeince clutch?
Rally Red Evo
10-07-2004, 12:51 PM
Stock Turbo?
Mike C
10-07-2004, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by criitter7
isnt that the insanely expeince clutch?
Its about $1200 with flywheel. Not insane.
Rally Red Evo
10-07-2004, 01:14 PM
I paid $1248 for mine, and they are a great clutch.
Sparky
10-07-2004, 01:22 PM
EMS?
smokeshank
10-07-2004, 01:45 PM
i paid 100 for my exedy stage 1 crap. but its the cheapest of the line, other than OEM replacement.
Mike C
10-07-2004, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by smokeshank
i paid 100 for my exedy stage 1 crap. but its the cheapest of the line, other than OEM replacement.
This clutch is a weeee bit better:)
Originally posted by Sparky
EMS?
No, Andrew wants his car to run when he needs it to. :o
He's using an S-AFC II. :D
smokeshank
10-07-2004, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by Mike C
This clutch is a weeee bit better:)
i know, thats why i said i got the cheap one ;)
i still cant wait tho till i get my oem out for the stage 1 and get the motor swap in, and turbo. but im not expecting it to be done till next spring. the motor is being put back together now, the turbo kit just needs 450s and a AFC
;)
Mike C
10-07-2004, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by Hua
No, Andrew wants his car to run when he needs it to. :o
He's using an S-AFC II. :D
Mine runs fine. (The only thing on my car thats been bulletproof:) ). The majority of EMS owners don't share in Jeff's problems so I'd say thats a bit unfair.
91E39A
10-07-2004, 02:06 PM
Full stand-alone EMS is powerful in the right hands and worthless to the rest.
Hand full of bad experiences to give it a bad rep.
I became a believer in EMS the day that I was able to smoothly idle a 4g63 with 272's/sheetmetal intake, and debunk the myth that you can't idle well with that combination.
oh yeah.... my $.02
-Dan S.
koritina
10-07-2004, 03:19 PM
Congrats on 11's Andrew. I have the 11.79 on tape, then we left.
All I got was a blown head gasket. :rolleyes: Oh well..
VR4OOOM
10-07-2004, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by Mike C
Mine runs fine. (The only thing on my car thats been bulletproof:) ). The majority of EMS owners don't share in Jeff's problems so I'd say thats a bit unfair.
Just a FYI, there hasnt been a single problem with my car due to the AEM or its tuning. Now MSD on the other hand... :o
Save for some silly ignition problem (again) the car is running great :cool It was good to see a handfull of cars trapping 110-115 that i pulled rather easily 6psi ago :P
Oh, and never, ever, EVER buy a SPEC Stage 5 Clutch :eek :mad:
EDIT: I did however have a HKS bov go bad (one of two), 255 fuel pump die (one of two), injector retainers all leak (boost), intake manifold gasket go bad, and plugs that needed changed (again) to get her holding boost like it should and now a coil decides to die or something funky happened with the wiring. DIS4 seems to be working fine so im sure its something minor, but even holding 27psi now i dont think 5 cylinders would have got me in the 11s :P
DQ Driver
10-07-2004, 07:42 PM
nice runs.. i think you were the only person I saw that actually make consistent and clean passes besides the red Lightning. although many know or have met you before.. you still need to stop over here..
NOOB FORUM (http://www.columbusdsm.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=27)
Originally posted by VR4OOOM
It was good to see a handfull of cars trapping 110-115 that i pulled rather easily 6psi ago :P
give it a rest already.... joking or not, this IS the shit i'm talking about.
Originally posted by smokeshank
i know, thats why i said i got the cheap one ;)
i still cant wait tho till i get my oem out for the stage 1 and get the motor swap in, and turbo. but im not expecting it to be done till next spring. the motor is being put back together now, the turbo kit just needs 450s and a AFC
;)
way to threadjack!! and nobody cares by the way
VR4OOOM
10-07-2004, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by luong88888
give it a rest already.... joking or not, this IS the shit i'm talking about.
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Not joking in the slightest. I ran a couple of the 03 cobras and a few others there (including the former CDSM Prez) from nice slow 2nd gear rolls and pulled away quite easily (in the case of the 110mph cobras VERY easily) back when i was running 19-20psi. Ask Ken or Mike C because the owners of said cars posted about it on RC quite awhile ago--old news IMO. Last saturday even Brett was worried id get around him on equal boost (his car has trapped 122mph) but on the way to Hooters something in the ignition decided to die and were still not sure what yet.
So that was somehow shit-talking to you? :rolleyes:
Mike C
10-07-2004, 08:15 PM
Why don't you just ditch that MSD POS and get an AEM CDI box or.......
email this guy and tell him that you want him to make you a COP setup and CDI box for a 3000GT
tym@switzerperformanceinnovation.com :cool
Mike C
10-07-2004, 08:17 PM
I'm sure he won't mind me saying but...Chad's not trapping 110-115.:)
evorx7man
10-07-2004, 08:20 PM
Disregard the statements made by Hua about the EMS. It is already in the plans for this winter, and is essential for taking the car into the 10 second range. To answer some of the questions about the car: Yes, it is on a stock turbo still, other than that its basically a stage 4 Buschur setup w/the AFC2. A few changes I have made: I put Ferrea components in the cyl. head to accomodate for the high lift Piper cams which I switched to from the HKS 264. As I mentioned, Exedy twin disc, and a few other small items that vary from the "stage 4" setup. I am happy with the car, but it would definitley benefit from the EMS even at this point. The air/fuel and timing curves are still very rocky with the stock ECU attempting to figure out what in the hell happend to my car.:D I would say the ultimate goal would be to beat the 11.59 record setting pass with only an AFC and stock intake manifold, but I thinks its already to late because I will be making plenty of new changes this winter.
Andrew
MrBlunt
10-07-2004, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by Mike C
I'm sure he won't mind me saying but...Chad's not trapping 110-115.:)
Hes right, my best is 109. Let me see any of you boys do the same w/ my power level and street tires on pump. Were you running race gas that night jeffrey?
VR4OOOM
10-07-2004, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by Mike C
Why don't you just ditch that MSD POS and get an AEM CDI box or.......
email this guy and tell him that you want him to make you a COP setup and CDI box for a 3000GT
tym@switzerperformanceinnovation.com :cool
If the problems with the MSD stuff persists im sure we'll look into other alternatives. The ignition issues early in the year were due to the fact that none of the MSD parts were in the car (hence spark blow-out). The issue now is with the components installed and the very good possibility that one of them may have kicked the bucket already :(
I really wasnt talking about Chad (didnt see him run last night) but i figured id need to include him around here as a "notary" to verify my crazy, outlandish posts :o
Just the facts Maam, just the facts ;)
I never once made a comment about comparing my car to anyone there in terms of ET because with the clutch in the car i wouldnt bet money id beat a stock taurus from a dig. However, since i havent been to the track in awhile it was nice to see that cars i beat EASILY from a roll still trapped pretty good (110+) :)
VR4OOOM
10-07-2004, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by MrBlunt
Were you running race gas that night jeffrey?
Strictly 110 for the past 3 months now :)
EDIT: And just for anyone else that is lacking in the reading comprehension dept. my post wasnt meant to brag or make fun of the cars that did run last night or any of that. I simply stated that cars i pulled away from easily from a roll trapped rather well. PERIOD. Anything else that gets added or twisted or turned is as usual outta my control.
Mike C
10-07-2004, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by evorx7man
Disregard the statements made by Hua about the EMS. It is already in the plans for this winter, and is essential for taking the car into the 10 second range. To answer some of the questions about the car: Yes, it is on a stock turbo still, other than that its basically a stage 4 Buschur setup w/the AFC2. A few changes I have made: I put Ferrea components in the cyl. head to accomodate for the high lift Piper cams which I switched to from the HKS 264. As I mentioned, Exedy twin disc, and a few other small items that vary from the "stage 4" setup. I am happy with the car, but it would definitley benefit from the EMS even at this point. The air/fuel and timing curves are still very rocky with the stock ECU attempting to figure out what in the hell happend to my car.:D I would say the ultimate goal would be to beat the 11.59 record setting pass with only an AFC and stock intake manifold, but I thinks its already to late because I will be making plenty of new changes this winter.
Andrew
Great numbers. The EMS will help alot even if you didn't change anything else and would probably get you real close to that 11.59 number.
I wouldn't make a habit of trying to chase Curt Brown though. He's somewhat of a hero/legend in the DSM parts. Rumor is that 11.59 was on the POS stock EVO clutch:eek
Gunner
10-07-2004, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by Mike C
Rumor is that 11.59 was on the POS stock EVO clutch:eek
That's no rumor.
Yetzer, Yetzer, Yetzer. Benchracing again are we? I pulled this much on so and so when I was running low boost..........STOP NOW!!! First of all, we don't care the least about you. We still laugh at you. If your crap was running good then you should have raced, and since you didn't you shouldn't have opened your mouth about who you flew-by on the HIGHway. That is exactly the kind of BS, unquantified shit talking that we think of when you start bragging. Maybe it isn't your intention, but you come off as a stupid fucking ricer talking to his homeboys. Take your BS and share your kill stories with people that give a fuck. Once you get back to the track, grow some balls, and maybe some hair come on back and let us know how deep into the 13's you are now.
As for your misfire issue, if you're looking at your ignition system then you're looking in the wrong place. I'm no expert, but I know someone having similar problems and they're all related to the living hell that is AEM tuning and setup. Since you're not making big power yet, you're not operating at cyl pressures high enough to give you issues with dropping spark.
On a side note, I would love to see my friend JP take his $50 Colt and molest you in every possible way on the highway. :beer
Rally Red Evo
10-07-2004, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by evorx7man
Disregard the statements made by Hua about the EMS. It is already in the plans for this winter, and is essential for taking the car into the 10 second range. To answer some of the questions about the car: Yes, it is on a stock turbo still, other than that its basically a stage 4 Buschur setup w/the AFC2. A few changes I have made: I put Ferrea components in the cyl. head to accomodate for the high lift Piper cams which I switched to from the HKS 264. As I mentioned, Exedy twin disc, and a few other small items that vary from the "stage 4" setup. I am happy with the car, but it would definitley benefit from the EMS even at this point. The air/fuel and timing curves are still very rocky with the stock ECU attempting to figure out what in the hell happend to my car.:D I would say the ultimate goal would be to beat the 11.59 record setting pass with only an AFC and stock intake manifold, but I thinks its already to late because I will be making plenty of new changes this winter.
Andrew
Nice numbers. What AFR are you running?
VR4OOOM
10-07-2004, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by Gunner
I'm no expert
On a side note, I would love to see my friend JP take his $50 Colt and molest you in every possible way on the highway. :beer
Im sure if Brett wasnt out in Cali right now getting "officially" certified on the EMS hed love to hear how he knows nothing about tuning and should take your advice because youve proven time and time again you know so much more than he does :P You are correct for a change--youre no expert ;)
Did someone mention bench-racing? Go away squirrel--im sure you can find some other nuts to swing on :P
Oh and for everyone else thats somehow convinced im making everything up heres the comments from an 03 cobra owner on RC that trapped 110ish all night last night the day after our few roll races:
"Nights like last night make hanging out w/you guys a whole lot more fun than sittin in a lawn chair in a pkg lot --Jeff owned me twice, and whoever has the silver RX7-owned me as well, but still most the fun I could have losin-cant wait to roll out of town again. Jef also killed my buddy in the SS."
Or see if you think the '03 cobra (camera car) is pulling it right in the one time my brother gets on it (my car) at all here:
http://knightsofspeed.com/RCCRRACES.wmv
Nevermind, its not worth the effort. The car traps 99mph all day long--everyone else just must be trapping 90 :o
Mike C
10-07-2004, 10:52 PM
Did I we mention we thought Andrew's time was good.....
VR4OOOM
10-07-2004, 10:55 PM
Even though i got to congratulate him in peson last night and have on other forums, i just want to say CONGRATS :beer one more time to Andrews 11 sec pass and get this thread back on topic (atleast a little).
If youd like to continue to post about my car you can laugh about it losing to an 11 sec stock turbo EVO from a roll :o
Gunner
10-07-2004, 11:34 PM
OH, so Yetzer beat a stock '03 cobra AND an SS Camaro!!! That's impressive, I'd brag about that all day long. :confused OH, and for the record, BS highway conquests are fucking gay.
Must you always call Brett to your rescue because you're so damn ignorant? As far as Brett being far superior to me I've already conceded that his knowledge is superior to mine only to be superceded by his lack of results, but I'm sure the knowledge is there. I said, hey, "I'M NO EXPERT", but said I have a friend having similar misfire issues, (he is infact very knowledgable, and experienced, at least as much as Brett), and his problems are EMS related. If he sees this I'm sure he'd love to point out that often the problems are in the settings and not in the "Tooning" itself.
Really now, I'm done with this, and next time you make a lame ass video of that with some of the poorest excuses of racing I have ever witnessed you guys should just run eachother off the road and spare us the misery.
In the end I really don't like fighting on the internet as much as I like fighting in person so I'll reserve further comments on your hairline and Yo Mamma until I see you in person and just hope that you take a swing at me.
I really don't see how I'd lose to a stock turbo EVO from a roll either. Unless I was racing Curt Brown. :) To reference what I mean, please see my signature. That goes for any 16g variation, reverse rotation twin scroll included.
EDIT: I see you meant that you lost to a stock turbo EVO from a roll, which means that I'd kick your ass too.
:beer to 11 second EVO's
91E39A
10-08-2004, 12:52 AM
For the record. Curt Brown ran with stock clutch/stock turbo. Buschur shouldn't be taking the credit for a tune he didnt do (Drag Sport Mag). Tym (under time constraints) tuned a basic boost comp map for Curt on a major, major boost leak. Leak was fixed by Curt at the garage and I tuned out the base map. Fixed Fuel Maps for Driveability and fuel mileage. Also cleaned up Accel/Decel maps and throttle response. Cold start trims and Idle needed lots of work too. Cleaned up the Ignition maps as well for higher boost. Curt learned how to operate the EMS and now datalogs and tunes himself. Curt tuned out a map for Race gas and the rest is history.
Sincerely,
-Dan S.
criitter7
10-08-2004, 01:19 AM
so what clutch is in this vr4 that makes to so difficult to drive?
Gunner
10-08-2004, 01:24 AM
Originally posted by 91E39A
For the record. Curt Brown ran with stock clutch/stock turbo. Buschur shouldn't be taking the credit for a tune he didnt do (Drag Sport Mag). Tym (under time constraints) tuned a basic boost comp map for Curt on a major, major boost leak. Leak was fixed by Curt at the garage and I tuned out the base map. Fixed Fuel Maps for Driveability and fuel mileage. Also cleaned up Accel/Decel maps and throttle response. Cold start trims and Idle needed lots of work too. Cleaned up the Ignition maps as well for higher boost. Curt learned how to operate the EMS and now datalogs and tunes himself. Curt tuned out a map for Race gas and the rest is history.
Sincerely,
-Dan S.
The moral is, Curt Brown is Jesus, and this Dan kid knows a thing or two as well seeing as his ride has the rest of this board covered by a second and a half, and about 20mph.
ucsigep
10-08-2004, 02:06 AM
Gunner, I'll fight you.
:)
evorx7man
10-08-2004, 03:08 AM
Originally posted by 91E39A
For the record. Curt Brown ran with stock clutch/stock turbo. Buschur shouldn't be taking the credit for a tune he didnt do (Drag Sport Mag). Tym (under time constraints) tuned a basic boost comp map for Curt on a major, major boost leak. Leak was fixed by Curt at the garage and I tuned out the base map. Fixed Fuel Maps for Driveability and fuel mileage. Also cleaned up Accel/Decel maps and throttle response. Cold start trims and Idle needed lots of work too. Cleaned up the Ignition maps as well for higher boost. Curt learned how to operate the EMS and now datalogs and tunes himself. Curt tuned out a map for Race gas and the rest is history.
Sincerely,
-Dan S.
This is roughly what I was about to post, I had a chance to talk with Curt at the DSM Shootout this year. Definitley stock clutch and turbo. Only real difference between our two cars is the EMS and a sheetmetal intake. On top of this, he is an amazing driver and provided me with some helpful ways to get my car out of the hole better. But still..sure I would like to be able to achieve that 11.5 mark, but it seems like just when you do that-someone will have gone 11.2 on a stock turbo. Seems as if it's a neverending process:D
Andrew
Stanislav94
10-13-2004, 12:02 AM
Congrats, I wanna a ride in a fast blue car.
DQ Driver
10-16-2004, 09:01 PM
AEM BS can be found here..
http://www.columbusdsm.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6628
boosted gt
10-18-2004, 01:57 PM
good job:beer
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