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Stanislav94
05-16-2005, 08:50 PM
Had alot of fun. Definitely improved on my time from last year. 60' 2.028 1/4 15.141 mph 88.59 . I'm happy. Let's hear how everyone else did.

DQ Driver
05-16-2005, 08:55 PM
best R/T : 0.011
best sixty foot: 3.019


I'll race you... on foot

Stanislav94
05-16-2005, 09:00 PM
Honda -VS- DSM

Sparky
05-16-2005, 09:43 PM
1 year and $2800 later = .02 sec better 60ft and 1.13 mph faster :idunno

1.831 60
8.634 1/8 @79.52
13.48 @ 102.46

fvee21
05-16-2005, 09:49 PM
Ran a 12.68@111mph. My best last year was a 13.9@101. Need to do some work on the tune. The car has been running great earlier this week but in the cold weather today I had a few problems. Thanks to ColumbusDSM for hosting the event! We had a lot of fun.

Shad

Jarod
05-16-2005, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by Sparky
1 year and $2800 later = .02 sec better 60ft and 1.13 mph faster :idunno

Lucky I wasnt there to spank on ya again huh? :beer

Scot
05-16-2005, 10:03 PM
So what were some of the times?

coltboostin
05-16-2005, 10:15 PM
I went 12.0@129.3, not launching the car at all to save the tranny as is evident by my 2.3 60ft times.

Ready to maul some bikes on the highway.

Mike C
05-16-2005, 10:16 PM
Breaking stuff sucks:(

The highlight for me was a few 2nd gear shakedowns with Tym giggling in the passenger's seat. I made a stupid mistake misshifting and overrevved, smacked a valve ETC...

I'll pull the head tomorrow night and hopefully the piston is OK. All in all, I'm happy with how hard the car pulled and it felt like the tranny/clutch was going to shift. I'm patiently optimistic:)

Mike C
05-16-2005, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by coltboostin
I went 12.0@129.3, not launching the car at all to save the tranny as is evident by my 2.3 60ft times.

Ready to maul some bikes on the highway.

Dude, your car was flying. Congrats:beer

I thought someone said your car went 133. Was 129 the fastest?

DQ Driver
05-16-2005, 10:17 PM
i battled a slipping hot clutch all day with many half passes...but not bad for my 1st day out in 8 months. I have a slew of slips that I didn't pick up, of the ones I do have most are in the 11.7-11.8 @ 119-120 mph range


best sixty foot : 1.65 (first pass, HA)
best 1/8th : 96.57
best mph: 120.97

best ET :
60 ft : 1.720
1/8th : 7.509@95.7
1/4 : 11.660@119.24


time for another 2600 or even a 2900

Mike C
05-16-2005, 10:20 PM
I grabbed a huge ass stack of time slips on my way out. If anyone is looking for one, PM me and I'll try to dig them out. (They are all marked pretty clearly). Big thanks to whoever did a great job with that:)

JesiKa
05-16-2005, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by Mike C
I grabbed a huge ass stack of time slips on my way out. If anyone is looking for one, PM me and I'll try to dig them out. (They are all marked pretty clearly). Big thanks to whoever did a great job with that:)

Lol... hopefully you can read my handwriting... sorry I didn't get numbers/names... hopefully car descriptions will work. I also apologize for the ones that didn't get marked.

...Thanks to all who took over slips when I wasn't out there... especially Ken. :D

...as a reply to the slips Stas posted up there... I LOVE my handwriting. haha

Rally Red Evo
05-16-2005, 10:37 PM
Thanks for the work to set it up, it was amazing I never had to wait to run:D

Best I could do was my last run 12.625 @109.

turbomark
05-16-2005, 10:48 PM
Mike... I think you ran an 11.60 on one of your runs. I could be wrong though. I'm sure that I amused everyone with my 19.xx at 69 mph runs, I was laughing at least at the stupidity of racing with a donut spare and not even exceeding the maximum speed limit on it.

turbomark
05-16-2005, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by Mike C
Dude, your car was flying. Congrats:beer

I thought someone said your car went 133. Was 129 the fastest?

I'm sure he'll hit those kind of traps with a solid tranny/lsd and an ignition that can keep up with the boost. I have video that you can hear it missing like crazy.

Scot
05-16-2005, 10:55 PM
Lets see the video. :cool

coltboostin
05-16-2005, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by Mike C
Dude, your car was flying. Congrats:beer

I thought someone said your car went 133. Was 129 the fastest?


133? Shit I wish. I would have pooped myself.


Thanks, so was yours when you rolled into it. Shit was rooolin. that girl working the slips worked her ass off. Good job to her. :beer

Mikey, I have video of youe 11.7 and my 129.3 pass coming.

coltboostin
05-16-2005, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by turbomark
I'm sure he'll hit those kind of traps with a solid tranny/lsd and an ignition that can keep up with the boost. I have video that you can hear it missing like crazy.

Yeah, blowin spark out past 26psi. No knock though, fuel was on, cleaned up at a .25 gap. More ground action maybe?

It sounds worse on video than it did in the car.

DQ Driver
05-16-2005, 11:07 PM
Mad props to JP... you can finally shut up some of the haters, if that new clutch setup holds for more than a week in that death trap :)

more importantly, how did you do on your Calculus exam earlier in the day??

:beer fender dump tube mod :beer

coltboostin
05-16-2005, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by luong88888
Mad props to JP... you can finally shut up some of the haters, if that new clutch setup holds for more than a week in that death trap :)

more importantly, how did you do on your Calculus exam earlier in the day??

:beer fender dump tube mod :beer


It was OK, she walked us through the test befor hand to a point and told us how to set up many of the problems. Hoping for a C! She either knows her class is rediculous, or thinks we are idiots for doing that.

turbomark
05-16-2005, 11:36 PM
Mike C. I've been looking over the video and comparing the vid against MIKEwhere you broke and your 11.xx video. it doesnt sound like you revved it any higher at all.

DQ Driver
05-16-2005, 11:39 PM
Big thanks to Chad for making some mean mac & cheese and baked beans and working the grill. His KIA even took a few passes down the strip.

Also, thanks for anyone that worked the tree, slips, etc. I hope I didn't give you cancer between roasting my clutch, tires, and the leaded race gas.


Gunner F-150 trailer mod = mint, way to own a red neck ass truck

Gunner
05-16-2005, 11:48 PM
This was a good motivational force for me to get WWD JUNK completed again. I'll be gunnin' for ya JP. :beer

Iwishiwascool
05-16-2005, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by coltboostin
It was OK, she walked us through the test befor hand to a point and told us how to set up many of the problems. Hoping for a C! She either knows her class is rediculous, or thinks we are idiots for doing that.

I thought I saw a 13X.00 as well.

Crazy rolling trap of death.

smokeshank
05-16-2005, 11:53 PM
best last year was 16.4x @ 84 this year was 16.33 @ 84
nothing to brag about, but i was happy


some my reations were:

-.007

.035
.079
.081
.100

i was very happy with the .0 reactions, all but 3-4 runs were .0 runs.

turbomark
05-17-2005, 12:02 AM
Makes me want to do something crazy to my rolling pile of shit... or maybe I should just focus on one car at a time.

Mike C
05-17-2005, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by turbomark
Mike C. I've been looking over the video and comparing the vid against MIKE where you broke and your 11.xx video. it doesnt sound like you revved it any higher at all.

The log shows differently than your ear:)

DQ Driver
05-17-2005, 12:17 AM
Highlight of the day:
Taking a few minutes out of my day to fix a car that was worked on by IPS

I also think I caught Ashley taking peak at my ass, I don't blame her for diggin the racing suit, yo!

Mike C
05-17-2005, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by luong88888


I also think I caught Ashley taking peak at my ass, I don't blame her for diggin the racing suit, yo!

If anything, we did look hottttttttttttttttttttttttt:cool

coltboostin
05-17-2005, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by Gunner
This was a good motivational force for me to get WWD JUNK completed again. I'll be gunnin' for ya JP. :beer

I f-in knew it. t70 here we go.....Im glad to hear.

Which one was Ashley? Quite a few female racers, good to see.

I need a fire suit.

koritina
05-17-2005, 01:15 AM
Low Quality versions:
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Jesika is the red/brown haired girl working slips on and off
Ashley is the younger blonde
Sahara is the one with the white 2G
Kim is the older blonde
(I think that covers it...) :P

turbomark
05-17-2005, 01:29 AM
No pics of this one????

DQ Driver
05-17-2005, 01:39 AM
wait a second.. you ran with a spare tire? AND it was on the front??

:confused

turbomark
05-17-2005, 01:51 AM
Yes...
1. I don't care
2. My trap speed doesn't exceed the maximum speed of hte donut.

12SecT@lon
05-17-2005, 01:58 AM
W O W.....nuff said

Stanislav94
05-17-2005, 04:41 AM
burning up the spare was, ummm, interesting...

Stanislav94
05-17-2005, 05:01 AM
And not to be mean or anything, but a bit too much. To each his own of course. Car sounded good though. Then again what am I talking about i'll have something like that on mine.

ttemper
05-17-2005, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by coltboostin

I need a fire suit. [/B]


LOL. i wonder how bad i'd get made fun of if i wore my fire FIGHTING suit.

Mike C
05-17-2005, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by coltboostin


I need a fire suit.

Dude go for a cage first. The firesuit won't matter watch when your entire body is crushed by your roof:)

David Buschur
05-17-2005, 11:18 AM
Sorry to hear about the valve Mike. If you want me to set up the revlimiter in the AEM for you so it won't happen again I'd be glad to do it, no charge of course.

Is your car track only now? Is that the exhaust coming out through the front fascia? Looks nice.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

Stryker124
05-17-2005, 11:22 AM
I am pretty sure I had the worst time of the day hehe: 46.x

Trying to launch in 3rd gear = a very embarassed Jami :D

It was great meeting you all, you guys really put together a great meet and it was fun watching you all run. Next time I hope to have the overboosting issue sorted out on my Civic so I can make more than 2 passes.

99blownyellowgt
05-17-2005, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by luong88888
Highlight of the day:
Taking a few minutes out of my day to fix a car that was worked on by IPS


Thanks:D

MrBlunt
05-17-2005, 03:48 PM
The Kia has mad torque. Just enough to kill young stockmaster and to chase down the rust rocket just before running through the finish line.

Big thanks to Switzer for securing the track day and bringing some very fast cars. The red evo shooting flames was hot.

The footracing was awsome, azn's >*.

Mike C
05-17-2005, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by MrBlunt


The footracing was awsome, azn's >*.

I was set up:D

TRBOCHK
05-17-2005, 06:07 PM
I'm not sure who's ass I was looking at the most yesterday.... But yes, it was some fun times... too bad my car wasn't there... I woulda showed all you boys up (ya right) I didn't want to break her before she goes bye bye.

DQ Driver
05-17-2005, 07:52 PM
If anyone has video or pictures of the RUST RKT roasting the clutch.... I'd love to see them. Send me a PM or an IM.

I have an ATI all-in-wonder video card and editing software, so I can also meet up with you to transfer videos with a component connection.

coltboostin
05-17-2005, 08:11 PM
http://thelotspot.com/videos/mikey11point7at120.wmv

since you asked, your best pass I think Sir.:D

Thank my boy Jerry for the Vids.

Scot
05-17-2005, 08:30 PM
Someone needs to keep there foot down on the shifts.:P

MrBlunt
05-17-2005, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by luong88888
If anyone has video or pictures of the RUST RKT roasting the clutch.... I'd love to see them. Send me a PM or an IM.

I have an ATI all-in-wonder video card and editing software, so I can also meet up with you to transfer videos with a component connection.

I do believe I have more than a few clips of you running. To bad I didnt have the camcorder on when you got run down by my korean carrera :eek . I can only imagine the peoples faces when i went running though the staging area already doing 45 :)

I'll try to have them uploaded tonight bizzle.

MitsubishiGirl
05-17-2005, 10:56 PM
Kim is the older blonde


It's a different season Shane...last time I checked, my hair was black/dark brown :thumb


BTW Colt...I was very impressed with your heap as everyone says. Who cares if it's not that pretty (which it didn't look that bad to me, but I only seen the outside), at least it showed it's stuff that day.

boosted98gst
05-17-2005, 11:57 PM
congrats to everyone that ran, looks like you all had fun!

JesiKa
05-18-2005, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by MitsubishiGirl
It's a different season Shane...last time I checked, my hair was black/dark brown :thumb

You hair looks more like a brown/dark blonde actually... dyed hair does funny things on a daily basis... lol.:P

DQ Driver
05-18-2005, 03:38 AM
Originally posted by coltboostin
http://thelotspot.com/videos/mikey11point7at120.wmv

since you asked, your best pass I think Sir.:D

Thank my boy Jerry for the Vids.

very nice. my best pass was earlier in the day, before you had even showed up though :)

DQ Driver
05-18-2005, 03:41 AM
Originally posted by Scot
Someone needs to keep there foot down on the shifts.:P

PROBABLY, i'm a little 'rusty' from driving an automatic 1995 Accord sedan for the last 8 months.

Scot
05-18-2005, 09:43 AM
Blame the Honda. :nonono

Good pass though.

coltboostin
05-19-2005, 01:47 AM
I know the launch is lame, but again, a tranny unbroken is another f-in tranny (would be #5) that I have to put in the car. Just some shakedown passes, good ET's to come with the Shep built trans....


http://thelotspot.com/videos/coltboostin129point3.wmv




The car is just pulls OMG hard on the back half.

turbomark
05-19-2005, 02:32 AM
get some real slicks on the bitch get a nice tranny and launch it

Scot
05-19-2005, 01:48 PM
Nice run.

DQ Driver
05-19-2005, 01:54 PM
how's this for a nice RUN. (http://www.columbusdsm.com/videos/GrudgeMatch%232.mpg)

dsmarc
05-19-2005, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by luong88888
how's this for a nice RUN. (http://www.columbusdsm.com/videos/GrudgeMatch%232.mpg)

i think Mike C. really was going for the entire 1/4

coltboostin
05-19-2005, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by luong88888
how's this for a nice RUN. (http://www.columbusdsm.com/videos/GrudgeMatch%232.mpg)

no worky

dsmarc
05-19-2005, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by coltboostin
no worky

it works..must be your computer

MrBlunt
05-19-2005, 04:37 PM
What are you trying to open it with? Windows media player? What error do you get? Try removing the .mpeg after the .mpg so that it ends with .mpg.

MrBlunt
05-19-2005, 04:42 PM
I used windows movie maker to convert them to wmv files. Blame microsoft if these dont work.
New Vids

For you JP (http://www.columbusdsm.com/videos/TheColt127mphTrap.wmv)
Switzer vs Mike C Trucking Battle (http://www.columbusdsm.com/videos/TruckBattle.wmv)
Foot race madness (http://www.columbusdsm.com/videos/GrudgeMatch2.wmv)

Originals

For you JP (http://www.columbusdsm.com/videos/JpsColt12_47@127.mpg)
Switzer vs Mike C Trucking Battle (http://www.columbusdsm.com/videos/TruckBattleNorwalk2005.mpg)
Foot race madness (http://www.columbusdsm.com/videos/GrudgeMatch#2.mpg)

Stanislav94
05-19-2005, 04:54 PM
Nice vids. Anyone get the Odyssey in action?

coltboostin
05-19-2005, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by MrBlunt
For you JP (http://www.columbusdsm.com/videos/JpsColt12_47@127.mpg)

Switzer vs Mike C Trucking Battle (http://www.columbusdsm.com/videos/TruckBattleNorwalk2005.mpg)

Thanks much. I knew what you were asking, but I did not knwo how to do it sicne it was not in the form on the file's name. I am Terrible with computer stuff like that.

Man, my car soudns terrible when it was breaking up like that. :(

criitter7
05-19-2005, 10:03 PM
what turbo is on the colt again??????

coltboostin
05-19-2005, 10:13 PM
(Outdated dinosaur) 60-1

Jarod
05-19-2005, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by MrBlunt
For you JP (http://www.columbusdsm.com/videos/JpsColt12_47@127.mpg)

Switzer vs Mike C Trucking Battle (http://www.columbusdsm.com/videos/TruckBattleNorwalk2005.mpg)

Thats what a gmc will get ya!! Shoulda had the powerstroke there.

Mike C
05-19-2005, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by Jarod
Thats what a gmc will get ya!! Shoulda had the powerstroke there.

I can't open any of these fuckers either. I doubt the powerstroke would have beaten that 3500 modded beast anyway:D

DQ Driver
05-19-2005, 10:41 PM
try media player 10

Mike C
05-19-2005, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by luong88888
try media player 10

I did:(

Gunner
05-19-2005, 10:58 PM
Something is up with these vids. I can't play them, and I'm using the latest MP 9, I'm not running XP so I can't even get 10 to try it. All I get is sound.

coltboostin
05-19-2005, 11:12 PM
I got xp ver. 9.02 and Media 6.0-Q trim. My type-o proccessor is at 200x bit hz speed, and the overdrive sequencer on my apple q-logic 54 gig micro master duhiky is even fully engaged. I tried loading it through the soft floating dock port in the port side afankle reference point in the limp-mode orifice of the flux capacitor of my h drive, and still no beans.

So why cant I see the vids?























I'll try DOS next.

90tsiguy
05-19-2005, 11:55 PM
I can pull 'em all up. This is on an A64 though. My guess would be that you need a plugin or something. I am running 8.0 from what I can see. Old school=no license bullshit. Lata

MrBlunt
05-20-2005, 12:12 AM
I used windows movie maker to convert them to wmv files. Blame microsoft if these dont work.

New Vids

For you JP (http://www.columbusdsm.com/videos/TheColt127mphTrap.wmv)
Switzer vs Mike C Trucking Battle (http://www.columbusdsm.com/videos/TruckBattle.wmv)
Foot race madness (http://www.columbusdsm.com/videos/GrudgeMatch2.wmv)

Originals

For you JP (http://www.columbusdsm.com/videos/JpsColt12_47@127.mpg)
Switzer vs Mike C Trucking Battle (http://www.columbusdsm.com/videos/TruckBattleNorwalk2005.mpg)
Foot race madness (http://www.columbusdsm.com/videos/GrudgeMatch#2.mpg)

MitsubishiGirl
05-20-2005, 12:15 AM
Those are simply awsome!

emagdnim
05-20-2005, 12:58 AM
i could see them from the beggining, are any of you using mozzilla?

Cool vids, we need a CDSM archive.

VR4OOOM
05-20-2005, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by luong88888
Highlight of the day:
Taking a few minutes out of my day to fix a car that was worked on by IPS


Thanks for the plug!

Seriously though, thanks for taking care of a customer of ours that had a boost issue that we didnt have time to look at Sunday at 5 o'clock when it was done. Due to overnighting parts just to get the car all back in one piece the day before the track day there was zero time for trouble-shooting. We drove the car before and after the turbo swap and it wouldnt go over 12psi but just didnt have time to look into the mbc set-up that was already installed. Same reason the AFC2 was installed but just zeroed out.

Glad to hear everyone had a good time and seems to have been a nice turn-out :)

dsmarc
05-20-2005, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by emagdnim
i could see them from the beggining, are any of you using mozzilla?

Cool vids, we need a CDSM archive.

i hate mozilla. do you use it? i have no reason to use it i think i have just got acoustomed(sp) to what i use now. from what i hear mozzila is a well protected source from like virus' and stuff.

and there is a archive i believe..its called member media

DQ Driver
05-21-2005, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by VR4OOOM
Thanks for the plug!

Seriously though, thanks for taking care of a customer of ours that had a boost issue that we didnt have time to look at Sunday at 5 o'clock when it was done. Due to overnighting parts just to get the car all back in one piece the day before the track day there was zero time for trouble-shooting. We drove the car before and after the turbo swap and it wouldnt go over 12psi but just didnt have time to look into the mbc set-up that was already installed. Same reason the AFC2 was installed but just zeroed out.

Glad to hear everyone had a good time and seems to have been a nice turn-out :)

NO PROBLEMO!

The funny thing is, the problem did not directly deal with the 'already installled mbc'. The real problem lied in the re-installation of the vacumm hoses. It's something that can be easily overlooked by your run of the mill hack, backyard mechanic to your high performance, top of the line 'motorsports' shop.

I mean it's just boost control, right??? OMG LOL!!@#$%@#

:)

VR4OOOM
05-21-2005, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by luong88888
NO PROBLEMO!

The funny thing is, the problem did not directly deal with the 'already installled mbc'. The real problem lied in the re-installation of the vacumm hoses. It's something that can be easily overlooked by your run of the mill hack, backyard mechanic to your high performance, top of the line 'motorsports' shop.

I mean it's just boost control, right??? OMG LOL!!@#$%@#

:)

Youll have to forgive our ignorance. Its the first turbo weve ever installed and after a week of trying to figure out how to do it we just guessed :rolleyes:

The car was dropped off saturday morning with 8 cars directly ahead of it (in process) and 6 more here waiting to come in and it was finished sunday at 5 o'clock (no, were not open and dont work sundays) and was not in anyway ready to dyno and/or run full-out at the track. We didnt even as much as drive it 1/2 mile after it was started on sunday to trouble-shoot or test out anything.

Long and short: it doesnt surprise me in the slightest that a vac line could have been an issue.

Glad helping someone out gave you something to post about.

Oh, BTW, we just finished another 300zx that "should" put down around 500whp but its got an even MORE complicated blue-screened thingy and TWO turbos and were lost. Any chance you could come by the shop and show us how it all works? :rolleyes:

coltboostin
05-21-2005, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by VR4OOOM
Youll have to forgive our ignorance. Its the first turbo weve ever installed and after a week of trying to figure out how to do it we just guessed :rolleyes:

The car was dropped off saturday morning with 8 cars directly ahead of it (in process) and 6 more here waiting to come in and it was finished sunday at 5 o'clock (no, were not open and dont work sundays) and was not in anyway ready to dyno and/or run full-out at the track. We didnt even as much as drive it 1/2 mile after it was started on sunday to trouble-shoot or test out anything.

Long and short: it doesnt surprise me in the slightest that a vac line could have been an issue.

Glad helping someone out gave you something to post about.

Oh, BTW, we just finished another 300zx that "should" put down around 500whp but its got an even MORE complicated blue-screened thingy and TWO turbos and were lost. Any chance you could come by the shop and show us how it all works? :rolleyes:

Can it prove its worthyness and the claims of you and in tern your shop, in a run with my 50$ POS? We'll see who's blue thingy is tuned better.

VR4OOOM
05-21-2005, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by coltboostin
Can it prove its worthyness and the claims of you and in tern your shop, in a run with my 50$ POS? We'll see who's blue thingy is tuned better.

If in fact my customer is at all interested in racing your $50 POS with his $40k show car ill let you know -- dont hold your breath.

How such a race would prove the worthyness of my shop is beyond me :idunno

Id offer a race vs my own car but i keep making excuses about ignition problems and broken valve springs to cover for the fact that we cant figure out how the whole extremely complicated boost thing works and alas am not much competiton :(

Mike C
05-21-2005, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by VR4OOOM


Oh, BTW, we just finished another 300zx that "should" put down around 500whp but its got an even MORE complicated blue-screened thingy and TWO turbos and were lost. Any chance you could come by the shop and show us how it all works? :rolleyes:

I suspect Mikey won't have time to look at it. He'll most likely be at a track somewhere running his usual mid 11s.

90tsiguy
05-21-2005, 11:22 PM
:popcorn I'm DYING over here! You guys, given two days away from the board and you come up with THIS! It's pure genious! Way to cheer me up after a day of work bs!

Gunner
05-21-2005, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by VR4OOOM
Id offer a race vs my own car but i keep making excuses about ignition problems and broken valve springs to cover for the fact that we cant figure out how the whole extremely complicated boost thing works and alas am not much competiton :(


I'm sure that's completely aside from the fact that you know coltboostin's car would anihilate your heap.

VR4OOOM
05-21-2005, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by Gunner
I'm sure that's completely aside from the fact that you know coltboostin's car would anihilate your heap.

You are so right, never in my wildest dreams could i hope to go faster than 12s :o

DQ Driver
05-21-2005, 11:56 PM
what???

i can't hear you over the roaring top end of your car??


http://www.columbusdsm.com/luong88888/vids/yetzger.mpg

criitter7
05-22-2005, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by luong88888
what???

i can't hear you over the roaring top end of your car??


http://www.columbusdsm.com/luong88888/vids/yetzger.mpg


how much power does that thing make?????????

Gunner
05-22-2005, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by VR4OOOM
You are so right, never in my wildest dreams could i hope to go faster than 12s :o

But you're not a drag strip racer. You're the king of 270 or some bullshit. The highway is your game and with coltboostin next to you that is a game you'd surely lose like the arrogant 580whp Porsche owner did last night. Give it up man, your car is a hunk of polished showcar bullshit that hasn't run well a day in its life.

90tsiguy
05-22-2005, 12:03 AM
Looking at the trap speeds, I have to argue that there's more there in terms of a faster e.t.

The way that thing took off the line tells me that guys straight-up sandbagging. :cool

VR4OOOM
05-22-2005, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by Gunner
But you're not a drag strip racer. You're the king of 270 or some bullshit. The highway is your game and with coltboostin next to you that is a game you'd surely lose like the arrogant 580whp Porsche owner did last night. Give it up man, your car is a hunk of polished showcar bullshit that hasn't run well a day in its life.

King of 270? LOL. Yeah, i drive a 4000lb awd car because i want to be the "King" of roll-racing :P It just so happened that last year it was MUCH better roll-racing than dig due to a clutch that made even driving it TO the track miserable.

I told everyone it would lose to a stock taurus from a dig and i wasnt exagerating ;)

129 traps is flying but whether it was a fender or bus-length behind, id rather drive home in the 580whp Porsche :cool

VR4OOOM
05-22-2005, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by luong88888
[B]what???

i can't hear you over the roaring top end of your car??

Awwwwww how cute -- you have vids of me :heart Do you have pics of me on your mirror and pics of my car as your screen-saver? Im flattered :down

I have no idea what any of this has to do with your little jab at my shop but since you want to play show-and-tell i have a pic of you from last weekend:

http://www.hostilism.com/ht/misc/azn_homo_show.jpg

Dont listen to everyone, i think you look very imposing in a Richard Simmons / Trekie sort of way :P

coltboostin
05-22-2005, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by VR4OOOM
Awwwwww how cute -- you have vids of me :heart Do you have pics of me on your mirror and pics of my car as your screen-saver? Im flattered :down

I have no idea what any of this has to do with your little jab at my shop but since you want to play show-and-tell i have a pic of you from last weekend:

http://www.hostilism.com/ht/misc/azn_homo_show.jpg

Dont listen to everyone, i think you look very imposing in a Richard Simmons / Trekie sort of way :P

Just let us know when you get all these show/race cars figured out. I will take this throne of 270 back home to CLeveland.

DQ Driver
05-22-2005, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by VR4OOOM
Awwwwww how cute -- you have vids of me :heart Do you have pics of me on your mirror and pics of my car as your screen-saver? Im flattered :down

I have no idea what any of this has to do with your little jab at my shop but since you want to play show-and-tell i have a pic of you from last weekend:

http://www.hostilism.com/ht/misc/azn_homo_show.jpg

Dont listen to everyone, i think you look very imposing in a Richard Simmons / Trekie sort of way :P


FACT meets Fiction.

Suit yourself buddy, you're just opening up the floor for imaginative personal attacks.

99blownyellowgt
05-22-2005, 05:25 PM
Can we lock this thread.I didnt want to cause any problems:(

coltboostin
05-22-2005, 06:11 PM
No problems here pilgrim. Since a mdo is the 2nd part of this discussion, I dont think I see that happening.

IPSMike
05-22-2005, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by T76 GT
Can we lock this thread.I didnt want to cause any problems:(

I completely agree...

Maybe i am missing something here, but what is with the angst?

BLT_99GSX
05-22-2005, 08:14 PM
so when's the next track rental?? maybe all disputes can be settled on the track.

Gunner
05-22-2005, 11:58 PM
http://www.columbusdsm.com/luong88888/vids/yetzger.mpg

http://thelotspot.com/videos/mikey11point7at120.wmv


Settled.

coltboostin
05-23-2005, 02:23 AM
Wow. Is that really your whip? I think the white whale could take that a few valves down.

emagdnim
05-23-2005, 09:24 AM
Isnt the 3rd grade shit getting old yet?

Everyone here puts there time and money into a car that they enjoy regardless of what the hell anyone think's.

Obviously, no one cares about your guy's stupid post, so stop f'n posting stupid shit about people. This "i know you are but what am i" shit is rediculous.

There are a million things anyone can say to make fun of everyone here...you put your fucking pant's on the same fucking way every morning as the person your making fun of, and if we were all the same.. i would f'n kill myself from the boredom.

Get the fuck over it, tend to your shit, and make fun of yourself before you take dumb stabs at people enjoying there cars.

Love
-your local wannabe hippy

Good morning everyone.

VR4OOOM
05-23-2005, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by emagdnim
Isnt the 3rd grade shit getting old yet?



VERY. My first post in this thread was as bunnies & rainbows as i get. I was THANKING mike for helping a customer and look where it still got. I could post that the weather looks nice on this board each morning and the same two people would have something to say about it. The predictability is amazing.

Hell, i called this one a full 48 hrs before it was even posted:

"You realize because we didnt get it 110% tuned and dialed in and running more boost that Mike L will look at it for 5 seconds and find something to fix and post about how much we suck the second he gets home right?" -- Jeff 5/15/05 @ 5:31 PM

"We dont care--its sunday and youve been at the shop all day. Youre leaving and you can take care of it next week" -- Mike & Jeffs Girlfriends 5/15/05 5:32 PM

Girlfriends won. Mike L posts. The rest is history...
Jeff

Mike C
05-23-2005, 10:53 AM
Get the fucking sand out of your pussy Jeff. Seriously man, you guys made a mistake so just get over it. For the past 2 years, I have watched you make an excuse for everything that doesn't go right with your car or your shop's situation. Everyone here makes fuck ups but its the people that learn from their mistakes and don't make constant excuses who get respect.

http://www.columbusdsm.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8273

You think we single you out. Here's a thread example of me letting Dave Buschur what I think of him right now. There is also an example of Gunner letting Tym Switzer what he thought of him when it took 2 months for him to do a head for MIKE.

Try to relax a little and just back something up with a number and you won't get slammed. It looks pretty stupid when you're insulting a guy who has been running mid 11s for a year now, while your 3 year project is hovering at the 100MPH trap mark. I'm sure this post of mine will just spark more excuses from you and your camp. As always, we'll be sure to let you guys know when the next track day rental is. I'm sure you'll be there in full force.........

BTW... The resorting of physical threats to my friends via PM is truely pathetic.

VR4OOOM
05-23-2005, 12:22 PM
We'll push aside all the customer cars for the next few weeks just so we can work on our own and "finally" run some #s and make you guys happy. Until then... :o

Twist and turn and spin it however you like.

Facts:

1) My first post was THANKING mike for helping out a customer.
2) I have no idea if something was done incorrectly or not (i wasnt there) but said due to the timeframe and lack of trouble-shooting it would not surprise me at all. I am not embarrassed or trying to cover up anything whatsoever.
3) I was done with one post but mikey decided to keep pushing it.
4) Every single post of mine on this board ends up in a 3 page flame war
:P LOL

And this is what started this one:

"Thanks for the plug!

Seriously though, thanks for taking care of a customer of ours that had a boost issue that we didnt have time to look at Sunday at 5 o'clock when it was done. Due to overnighting parts just to get the car all back in one piece the day before the track day there was zero time for trouble-shooting. We drove the car before and after the turbo swap and it wouldnt go over 12psi but just didnt have time to look into the mbc set-up that was already installed. Same reason the AFC2 was installed but just zeroed out.

Glad to hear everyone had a good time and seems to have been a nice turn-out"

Yep, im awfully confrontational :rolleyes:

Mike C
05-23-2005, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by VR4OOOM
We'll push aside all the customer cars for the next few weeks just so we can work on our own and "finally" run some #s and make you guys happy. Until then... :o



That would be called: Good marketing.

VR4OOOM
05-23-2005, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by Mike C
That would be called: Good marketing.

Yes it would. It would also be called very bad customer service. You dont think id prefer to have my car out running well right now vs some kids corolla?

"Well, we WOULD have had it done in 2 weeks but it took a month because we were working on our own cars instead"

Maybe i should be more selfish...

Mike C
05-23-2005, 12:40 PM
Its not about being selfish, its about slowing down to a pace that is comfortable for you and your staff to turn out a good product. Marketing is very important. Having a a shop car or 2 that can go out and run some numbers establishes credibility that you know what you're doing. People certainly didn't buy parts from Buschur for 10 years because of his award winning personality. They buy from him because they constantly pushed the envelope and ran the cars hard, with parts they sold, and backed it up.

In my opinion, it is appropriate to criticise something as simple as a vacuum lines to a boost controller being backwards. It would make me question the shop's ability to do anything remotely complicated. However, if the shop had a reputation for making cars go fast, then I may be a little more lenient in my assessment and be willing to chalk it up as "they were rushing and it was just a fluke".

See where I'm coming from?

VR4OOOM
05-23-2005, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by Mike C
In my opinion, it is appropriate to criticise something as simple as a vacuum lines to a boost controller being backwards. It would make me question the shop's ability to do anything remotely complicated. However, if the shop had a reputation for making cars go fast, then I may be a little more lenient in my assessment and be willing to chalk it up as "they were rushing and it was just a fluke".

See where I'm coming from?

I do 110% -- which is the only reason i bothered to throw my 2 cents in as to why there might have been a problem in the first place. Its not about "making excuses" at all. IMO none are needed. I did someone a favor and tried to get the car all back in one piece running in an almost impossible time frame for what we had in the works already. NORMALLY we would have tuned it, trouble-shooted it, and drove it to verify everything was working great before it left.

The problem existed due to time constraints, not poor workmanship -- the only point i wanted to make ;)

How my car running 9s would change the perception of that is the only thing i dont get :idunno

90tsiguy
05-23-2005, 01:28 PM
Firstly, let me state that during the time I have known Jeff, I have always heard of the VR4 getting painted or this or that and just chalked it up to him being a perfectionist. Now he has a shop and still hasn't (to my knowledge) ever run a fast time with all the mods and thousands upon thousands of dollars into the car. I think Jeff is a great guy, but at some point, you gotta lay some numbers down to silence people.

No disrespect, but I would NEVER open a "performance" oriented shop without having my OWN personal car together. I have never seen someone have a shop that hasn't had their own car together, personally. The basis of people buying and bringing their car to you is for one reason, and one reason only, to enhance the performance of it. They believe, as the shops cars SHOULD prove, that what the shop does, PERFORMS. Aside from the joy of racing, why do shops put together such time consuming, money robbing projects?... CREDIBILITY. Fast, proven cars are the only tangible thing a PERFORMANCE SHOP can offer. Why would I just hand my car over to someone that I have no reason to believe knows what he's doing? Obviously, the cars you guys handle are pristine, and great as "show cars" but performance upgrades, at SOME POINT have to make SUBSTANTIAL gains. With all the money you have in your car Jeff, it needs to run better than it does. Do you realize you are barely running a lower et in that race compared to a stock vr4? Saying that it will get there "someday" as a shop owner doesn't cut it with 90% of the guys out there that want their car to be fast TODAY, not a promise for the future

Mike C
05-23-2005, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by VR4OOOM


How my car running 9s would change the perception of that is the only thing i dont get :idunno

Because an informed customer is going to know how hard it is and the skill level it requires to go 9s. That builds credibility and in my opinion, you guys do not have much because you don't have anything out there. Run a 10 second ET, turn a 1:45 lap at Midohio, post some dyno graphs of customer or shop cars making 500-600hp, something? The whole seen with the shops in Columbus seems hobbyist in nature to me and not much like real businesses. These are my opinions. Take them for what you will.

VR4OOOM
05-23-2005, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by 90tsiguy
No disrespect, but I would NEVER open a "performance" oriented shop without having my OWN personal car together. I have never seen someone have a shop that hasn't had their own car together, personally. The basis of people buying and bringing their car to you is for one reason, and one reason only, to enhance the performance of it. They believe, as the shops cars SHOULD prove, that what the shop does, PERFORMS. Aside from the joy of racing, why do shops put together such time consuming, money robbing projects?... CREDIBILITY. Fast, proven cars are the only tangible thing a PERFORMANCE SHOP can offer. Why would I just hand my car over to someone that I have no reason to believe knows what he's doing? Obviously, the cars you guys handle are pristine, and great as "show cars" but performance upgrades, at SOME POINT have to make SUBSTANTIAL gains. With all the money you have in your car Jeff, it needs to run better than it does. Do you realize you are barely running a lower et in that race compared to a stock vr4? Saying that it will get there "someday" as a shop owner doesn't cut it with 90% of the guys out there that want their car to be fast TODAY, not a promise for the future

Well said and i agree with you 100% Why do you think i wanted to start the shop in the first place? Everyones "vision" is that youre going to be buying all kinds of go-fast parts as tax write-offs and your personal car, God forbid, is going to be the test-dummy for new parts monthly and on and on. Well, in short, it doesnt work that way :( Bigger/nicer building equals more overhead which equals more bills which equals more demand to get cars in and out and make more each month. End result? Making a ton of money or not, to maintain that level our personal cars sit on the back-burner. My car did eat a valve-spring at 27psi last year and the new design wasnt released until just last week. Had we been dead all spring it still would be sitting right where it is right now. That being said, TRUST ME, no one wants to get the car done more than i do. The only changes being made (aside from the new valve springs) is a twin-disc clutch and titanium exhaust. Im going to run on the exact same EMS maps as i did the end of last year and hit the track as early as possible. I just want to show a "before and after" with nothing different but a real clutch and the ignition upgrades. So all the silly "they have no idea how to tune their own car" rumors can die. Mikes EVO is running the EMS as well as my other brothers laser so our tuning "inability" will be quite visible soon. Oh, and btw, as busy as we are now "soon" is quite relative...

I wish i had another 5 really good people to stay caught up and still work on our own stuff day-in and day-out but its just not gonna happen. In the "smaller" shop world its the biggest downside. You get to ride around and tune some silly fast cars, they just arent yours :(

99blownyellowgt
05-23-2005, 01:57 PM
I just wanted to say that i appreciated the fact that IPS did stay on sunday to try to complete Saharas car.I appreciate that mike and critter helped to fix the boost problem. I wish it could have been tuned and ready to roll completely on track day but it wasnt.Thats the way it goes with performance cars. Cant we all just get along?

Mike C
05-23-2005, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by T76 GT
I wish it could have been tuned and ready to roll completely on track day but it wasnt.Thats the way it goes with performance cars.

I know the feeling:)

VR4OOOM
05-23-2005, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by Mike C
Because an informed customer is going to know how hard it is and the skill level it requires to go 9s. That builds credibility and in my opinion, you guys do not have much because you don't have anything out there. Run a 10 second ET, turn a 1:45 lap at Midohio, post some dyno graphs of customer or shop cars making 500-600hp, something? The whole seen with the shops in Columbus seems hobbyist in nature to me and not much like real businesses. These are my opinions. Take them for what you will.

Shawns 03 Cobra put down 579rwhp/649 trq and we have three Zs that will be 500+rwhp now. John Linns Z28 "only" put down mid 400s but he doesnt lose on the street so that must count for something ;) Just dynoed a 300Z a couple days ago that put down 400+ rwhp on 11psi ultra-conservative pump-gas mode - high boost #s later this week. Bretts Z put down almost 550rwhp all of last year. Johns last cobra did mid 500s at the wheels and after his Z06 leaves this week it wont be too shabby either. Got a stealth up to 24psi on the EMS that was fast as fawk until a turbo ate itself but its up and will be shooting for high 700s awhp soon (dpending on how courages we get with the nitrous).

No predictions for my car, my brothers EVO, Erics Laser, or Tanks turbo liter bike but quicker than 14s shouldnt be a problem...

Yes, i guess we are just a "hobby" shop or just a shop that doesnt go run around and post #s for customer cars all the time to "prove" we know what we are doing. The 4 cars that got trailered in from out of state seem to trust us so thats all that matters to me ;)

turbomark
05-23-2005, 02:17 PM
I'm not taking sides here but with all these numbers people are putting down from your shop shouldn't you post the dyno graphs on your website? Perhaps videos?

VR4OOOM
05-23-2005, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by turbomark
I'm not taking sides here but with all these numbers people are putting down from your shop shouldn't you post the dyno graphs on your website? Perhaps videos?

Were about 50 cars behind in the "customer car" section but were getting to it. Even so, a lot of people dont like their #s tossed around online so it will be by permission only.

If you havent seen Linns car in a vid youre not looking very hard. Its out racing everything from lawnmowers to liter bikes every single weekend :cool

99blownyellowgt
05-23-2005, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by VR4OOOM
If you havent seen Linns car in a vid youre not looking very hard. Its out racing everything from lawnmowers to liter bikes every single weekend :cool

LOL

Mark My 5.0 made 370rwhp with 520tq.Im just a bad driver:D

VR4OOOM
05-23-2005, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by T76 GT
LOL

Mark My 5.0 made 370rwhp with 520tq.Im just a bad driver:D

Didnt mean to leave you out but i didnt know your #s for sure :cool

Jason - call me if you get a sec today :)

Gunner
05-23-2005, 03:20 PM
Gee whiz, with that veritable plethora of high powered, high class automobiles it seems as though IPS should have a track day of their own. (hint hint)

coltboostin
05-23-2005, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by turbomark
I'm not taking sides here but with all these numbers people are putting down from your shop shouldn't you post the dyno graphs on your website? Perhaps videos?

Agreed. What is the excuse going to be for this one now...

coltboostin
05-23-2005, 03:46 PM
Shit 500+z's, 570hp Cobra, and why dont one of these valued customers step up to the plate and give some testomonial? Pics? Charts? Fucking anythign besided the hopes and dreams that you have given us so far.

VR4OOOM
05-23-2005, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by coltboostin
Shit 500+z's, 570hp Cobra, and why dont one of these valued customers step up to the plate and give some testomonial? Pics? Charts? Fucking anythign besided the hopes and dreams that you have given us so far.

Do you think ColumbusDSM is the center of the universe or something? NONE are on here because NONE drive DSMs ;) Almost all post on other local forums quite regularly and almost all go out and race their cars quite regularly. They arent hard to find trust me.

Just a little FYI -- just because you havent heard of them on here doesnt make them "hopes and dreams" :rolleyes:

Roll out to hooters almost any nice friday/saturday night and youll find quite a few :cool

coltboostin
05-23-2005, 04:21 PM
If they are down to do a pull and show the IPS pride I will be down in 2 weeks. I am sayign it will take them all of 30 seconds to register and be ready to post here. Hell no I dont think Columbus DSMS's is the canter of shit, besides Ohio. Hell, I live in Cleveland anyhoo.

Anyways, answer the question:D

Renner19
05-23-2005, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by Mike C
Because an informed customer is going to know how hard it is and the skill level it requires to go 9s. That builds credibility and in my opinion, you guys do not have much because you don't have anything out there. Run a 10 second ET, turn a 1:45 lap at Midohio, post some dyno graphs of customer or shop cars making 500-600hp, something? The whole seen with the shops in Columbus seems hobbyist in nature to me and not much like real businesses. These are my opinions. Take them for what you will.


Jeff already highlighted a few. Too many Z's, Cobra's, F-bods, Vette's, Stealths/3000's to waste any time listing, especially since that list grows weekly. Which is why the same BS jabs from the same people are even weaker then usual?

Looks like you are conveniently forgetting how my car ran last summer with just simple bolt ons. The one and only time I took it to the track I managed mid 11's on my 3rd ever pass. Would have easily been a low 11 sec car if I bothered to go back more then once to get some more practice. :) Plenty of vids of it though, including me easily walking a certain f-bod that ran an 11.0 @ 127. Probably my best race was with Mike's LPE TT Vette, which ran mid 10's in the mid 130's. We ran from 60-150ish (his request), I held him off until around 150, when he had maybe 1 car on me when we shut down. Not bad for a bolt on car pieced together in a few weekends, and all on video of course. ;)

So just because we don't run here and post every time we get a car done means it doesn't happen in your book? I think you guys should venture out of your little colDSM circle once in a while. As I already mentioned, the vids, even some including Jeff's car running a few fast Cobras last summer, have been posted on the other local forums plenty of times.

It would be nice to make Jeff?s cars a priority, but unfortunately that?s just not the way things work when you have a business based on taking care of customers the best we can. So in the mean time, we just let the results from the customer cars handle our ?marketing?. ;) It's also funny to see your bashing of our ability to work with the AEM Mike. Remind me this next time that you shoot me an email asking me some questions about it. :o

Gunner
05-23-2005, 04:58 PM
Actual timeslips and corrected dyno charts would be nice to see. Otherwise anything spewed out is pretty much hearsay. Empirical data is easy to see and hard to argue with. Other than your car Brett I've nary seen any. Let's not talk '03 Cobra's either because damn near any redneck can make big power with one of those things. Seeing as there is so little valuable information on your site, you guys must have some kind of amazing word of mouth advertising down there.

Mike C
05-23-2005, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by Renner19

It would be nice to make Jeff?s cars a priority, but unfortunately that?s just not the way things work when you have a business based on taking care of customers the best we can. So in the mean time, we just let the results from the customer cars handle our ?marketing?. ;) It's also funny to see your bashing of our ability to work with the AEM Mike. Remind me this next time that you shoot me an email asking me some questions about it. :o

Please don't put words in my mouth dude. I think you're a nice guy but don't try to stretch things. I would hardly call asking your impressions of v1.11 over 1.03 a cry for help. Where did I question you're ability to tune an EMS at?

I'm glad you guys think we live in some sort of box here at ColDSM but you guys need a fucking reality check. "I'm sure it would have done this, I'm sure it would have done that BLAH BLAH FUCKING BLAH" I'm sorry but that shit doesn't fly with me. Neither do street racing comparisons from one car to the next. You want to say your car is fast in a street race. Fine. But I'm sick of you guys throwing out trophy numbers based on your own interanl circle of comparisons. There are many factors that go into getting a car to ET and trap.

My car just made 608awhp with about 1 hour of dyno tuning. It surely would have run 9s if I could drive it correctly :rolleyes:

Renner19
05-23-2005, 05:30 PM
Ah, so now there are stipulations as to which cars that have had high quality work done qualify? Gunner, you are asking for any cars that have done anything, but then you don?t like it when the answers are so easily available? :rolleyes:

Seriously, it's not our fault that you guys are out of the loop. Anybody who actually makes it out on the weekends knows exactly whose car does what. Doesn't matter what sort of number a car spits out on the dyno if it doesn't actually perform well when driven anyway. What the customer does with their car and their sheets/slips is up to them, and 95% of them don't go around and advertise their numbers on every forum then can find, which Jeff has already said more then once. Maybe if we were hurting for work that would that would be one thing, but that couldn?t be further from the case. Seems like only a few members on this forum are the ones who are confused...

Mike, likewise, don't put words in my mouth. I never said you were crying for help, because that simply wasn't the case. You asked me a few other questions about logging, boost control (you were using a MBC at the time), math's, etc, which was fine with me as I tried to help out. Your EMS comments/jabs weren't in this thread, you have made them more then once in the past, which seemed pretty shitty to me which is the only reason I even remember it. I don't feel like wasting the time to go dig it up, I am sure it would be gone by then anyway.

Mike, my car DID run mid 11's last summer, just like yours. The difference, mine happened on my 3rd ever pass at the track in the car. My car DID run door to door with a mid 10sec 135mph trapping LPE car, as proven on vid. What did you run on your first ever pass? How much did you improve with some practice? With more then a couple passes at trails for practice, dropping a few tenths is not so unheard of is it? Please show me where I claimed to have a 9 sec car? My car was nothing more then an average stock internal bolt on Z, and I have never hyped it up to be anything but. Once again, you guys were asking for examples of our work, so I offered up my car as an easy target, not because I was trying to brag about it. :)

My car also DID make it out pretty much every weekend last year to run anybody and everybody who bothered to make it out to a meet, and no this wasn?t just some small internal meet as you try to make it sound. For the past few years now people have been going out to the east hooters/jegs/krogers on the weekends, just like last weekend. Everybody knows this, it?s not exactly hard to figure out. ;) LOL at an earlier comment: "you guys don't have anything out there." lol

VR4OOOM
05-23-2005, 05:33 PM
I give up :rolleyes:

Its nice and sunny out so have a nice day!

Mike C
05-23-2005, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by Renner19


Mike, likewise, don't put words in my mouth. I never said you were crying for help, because that simply wasn't the case. You asked me a few other questions about logging, boost control (you were using a MBC at the time), math's, etc, which was fine with me as I tried to help out. Your EMS comments/jabs weren't in this thread, you have made them more then once in the past, which seemed pretty shitty to me which is the only reason I even remember it. I don't feel like wasting the time to go dig it up, I am sure it would be gone by then anyway.



This is complete bullshit. I have never made a comment on a public forum about your ability to tune anything. Jeff made a comment to me that you were controlling his boost pressure via the AEM and I sent you a PM on RC asking how you liked it just to shoot the shit and be friendly. Trust me if I needed hard facts, I feel that I already have a guy who's tuning resume is up there with the best of them.

There is no point to any of us arguing anymore. We obviously have a difference of opinion as to what is important performance wise. We're perfectly happy doing our thing and it sounds like you guys are equally happy doing yours.

Carry on then and be safe.

Renner19
05-23-2005, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by Mike C
This is complete bullshit. I have never made a comment on a public forum about your ability to tune anything. Jeff made a comment to me that you were controlling his boost pressure via the AEM and I sent you a PM on RC asking how you liked it just to shoot the shit and be friendly. Trust me if I needed hard facts, I feel that I already have a guy who's tuning resume is up there with the best of them.

There is no point to any of us arguing anymore. We obviously have a difference of opinion as to what is important performance wise. We're perfectly happy doing our thing and it sounds like you guys are equally happy doing yours.

Carry on then and be safe.


Well I'm heading out of work for the day, so I won't bother spending the time finding more then one:

Originally posted by Mike C
Mine runs fine. (The only thing on my car thats been bulletproof:) ). The majority of EMS owners don't share in Jeff's problems so I'd say thats a bit unfair.

What problems are you talking about here? We have never had a problem with Jeff's EMS, and I have seen multiple people say this stuff, so you have to wonder where some people come up with the stuff they post. And you know that Jeff himself isn't the one who does the work with it. More then one instance of people making unfounded comments about having problems with it, despite being corrected by Jeff himself on more then one occasion, is the BS that I remember.

Within our pm conversation you told me that you were also using only laptop logging at the time. I was trying to explain why using the internal logger was pretty important for reading the knock sensor because of sample rates, and mentioned a few other cool things you could do with it, like the dyno math's library. You were interested in this as well, remember the conversation now? I wanted to show you how to use it because I thought it was pretty cool, but you didn't want to let anybody see your log, which is just fine with me since I don't exactly mass email my maps either.

Seriously, it's not anything I'm worried about, my skin isn't that thin. I was wondering why somebody who had so many "problems" with the AEM would be someone who you asked a few questions to over a PM. Just thought it was worth mentioning since any time Jeff posts anything on here there seems to be a line of the same people (who have never even been to the shop coincidentally) bashing our ability to even tie our own shoelaces. Same shit, different day...

VR4OOOM
05-23-2005, 06:53 PM
The mass email just went out that everyones cars are going to be a couple weeks behind schedule all of the sudden :beer

Thanks for the motivation fellas :)

"What do you mean Z0SICKKKK isnt going to be done this week !?!?!?! "

coltboostin
05-23-2005, 08:39 PM
STILL waiting on any hard evidence. Shit, hand write out a time slip or draw a dyno chart with crayons or somthing.

Renner19
05-23-2005, 09:46 PM
Hard evidence of what? So you want to see a baseline dyno chart that my car made ~10 months ago? Ok. The phone number is right there on the sheet, give Brian Turner a call and ask him about it if you want to really verify it.


http://www.streetneeds.com/uploads/twinturbonet/Brett_dyno3.JPG

I know that about a dozen Columbus dsm people were at the import drag day at trails seeing some of my less then spectacular passes last summer, where I managed an 11.76 and Ken won the event with an 11.75. Same day that Jeff managed his blazing 14.0 cruise down the track (and was seen on video doing it) in fact.

I also have a 73 meg movie file showing plenty of runs with cars that serve as great benchmarks, such as the LPE TT Vette, and Sam?s Vette which ran 11.50?s at 120 all day long. Anybody got a good host? I would be glad to attempt to email it to you. :cool It's Race Club vid #6 for those who have probably already seen it.

Anything else?

coltboostin
05-23-2005, 10:04 PM
I want to see that video of you running the colt....

emagdnim
05-23-2005, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by Mike C
We're perfectly happy doing our thing and it sounds like you guys are equally happy doing yours.

Carry on then and be safe.


Words of wisdom.

But it should just say: EVERYONE is perfectly happy doing THEIR own thing and it sound's like EVERYONE is equally happy.

I love you all.

Mike C
05-23-2005, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by Renner19


What problems are you talking about here? We have never had a problem with Jeff's EMS, and I have seen multiple people say this stuff, so you have to wonder where some people come up with the stuff they post. And you know that Jeff himself isn't the one who does the work with it. More then one instance of people making unfounded comments about having problems with it, despite being corrected by Jeff himself on more then one occasion, is the BS that I remember.



Once again, you are twisting my words around. Here is what was posted the post before by one of your friends when Andrew was asked if he was running an EMS:

Originally posted by Hua
No, Andrew wants his car to run when he needs it to. :o

He's using an S-AFC II. :D

So should I not assume that Hua is referencing Jeff's car (I'm sure a little bit jokingly) in his post? I made the comment about not everybody having the same problems with their EMS in direct response to this comment.

Nice try:rolleyes:

Like I said, just go ahead and do your own thing and just pretend we don't exist. Neither of us obviously have anything to gain from each other.

99GS-TBabe
05-23-2005, 11:22 PM
Guys it really isn't worth fighting over my little old car. I'm REALLY sorry this has come to this but I think we all need to just take a deep breath and think about what we are really saying here. Misunderstandings and overlooks happen it isn't a big deal. I really really thank IPS for taking care of me at such a short notice and I really really thank Mike L. and Critter for helping me out. I went to both of you because I trust you and consider you knowledgeble and all around nice guys. So no I didn't get the #'s I was looking for but once everything is tuned and dialed in this is going to be one bad a** highway demon. Please can we all stop fighting. This is how grudges, rumors, and people get hurt (physically and mentally) because of things that are blown way out of proportion. I urge the heads of the site to please lock this thread so we can all move on. Please.
Let's have a GREAT summer of exhuast fumes, burning rubber and fast cars!! :Woohoo

Sam
06-03-2005, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by Renner19

I know that about a dozen Columbus dsm people were at the import drag day at trails seeing some of my less then spectacular passes last summer, where I managed an 11.76 and Ken won the event with an 11.75. Same day that Jeff managed his blazing 14.0 cruise down the track (and was seen on video doing it) in fact.

I also have a 73 meg movie file showing plenty of runs with cars that serve as great benchmarks, such as the LPE TT Vette, and Sam?s Vette which ran 11.50?s at 120 all day long. Anybody got a good host? I would be glad to attempt to email it to you. :cool It's Race Club vid #6 for those who have probably already seen it.

Anything else?


Here is the vid Brett, not trying to start this flame again, just wanted to show people the vid. :)

http://flathat.woodstream.net/ColumbusRacing/Hua/Race_Club_Episode06.mpg

Sam
06-03-2005, 03:43 PM
Minute 3:40 is where you and LPE car go at it.

MrBlunt
06-03-2005, 04:24 PM
Sam when is your track day again? The 16th?

Sam
06-03-2005, 06:39 PM
23rd I think is when andy scheduled it.

90tsiguy
06-03-2005, 07:23 PM
You have a pm.

Renner19
06-06-2005, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by Sam
Here is the vid Brett, not trying to start this flame again, just wanted to show people the vid. :)

http://flathat.woodstream.net/ColumbusRacing/Hua/Race_Club_Episode06.mpg

Thanks for posting the link, I didn't remember that is was on Kyle's server. :cool


FYI for anybody who hasn?t seen the vid yet, the camera car is of course Sam?s old car, the red C5. Watching the entire vid makes it pretty clear how well Mike?s LPE car runs. :eek

It?s sort of hard to hear, but I believe the commentary after the 2nd run at went something like this:

?Mike only had like a quarter car on him.?

Definitely a good race. :beer

Renner19
06-08-2005, 11:50 AM
Hmm, over 70 views since the vid that shows me running the LPE TT Vette was posted, and not one person has made any comments on it. I'm disappointed! lol

Mike C
06-08-2005, 12:05 PM
I'm not sure what type of new flame war you're trying to get out of us? Your car trapped 123 at the track. Did you do some level of new modifications after that which are now represented in this video therefore assuming your car "would" trap higher?

:idunno

Renner19
06-08-2005, 12:49 PM
Not looking for a flame war, just considering all the shit we gave colt about his race with the ?580rwhp? Porsche I really expected there would be all sorts of BS claims on this vid as well. Especially considering his quotes:

Originally posted by coltboostin
Shit 500+z's, 570hp Cobra, and why dont one of these valued customers step up to the plate and give some testomonial? Pics? Charts? Fucking anythign besided the hopes and dreams that you have given us so far.

My car did trap 124 the one time I took it to the track, I guess that means I couldn't possibly beat a car that trapped higher then me right? Funny I walked away from several cars that consistently trapped 126-129 (all on vid of course), and obviously ran pretty much door to door with a LPE car that trapped ~135. Interesting what actually turning up the boost and getting the a/f?s dialed in a bit more can do. ;)

There is more to life then time slips, especially when it comes time to actually run another car instead of just comparing pieces of paper with numbers and graphs on them. Since on paper there is no way my race with the LPE car or even ants car should have been close, I was sure there were be plenty of flak about the usual IPS "hopes and dreams".
:beer

I guess that this fulfilled his (and the rest of the haters) requests. ;)

Mike C
06-08-2005, 01:07 PM
Sweet. perhaps, you should take it to the track and get that 135MPH trap that it should now do. Congratulations in advance:)

DQ Driver
06-08-2005, 01:16 PM
Street racing is the best...Half a car length leads and jumping the gun are my personal favorites.

I raced Mike C's car last year on the way back from the track and I pulled a buslengh on his skinny white ass in his car that trapped mid 120's. He dynoed at 660awhp/600ft/lbs tq. Then he upped the jets in his nitrous so, I would guess he at least trapped like 135 because the next time I raced him I barely won because turned up my boost and dialed it in after I swapped my exhaust and air filter. The next day his dad came down in a mid 90's Dodge Caravan and helped him put a coat of wax on his car, resulting in a lower coefficient of drag. But Mike C's neighbor came stopped over and challenged us to a race from a dig, 20/40/60/80/100 mph roll in his diesel work truck, 1000gsx-r, and harley davidson roadster. His bike runs 10's but I beat him by at least 4 car lengths up to 120mph. He like 300 lbs of pure muscle mass and everyone knows muscle weighs more than fat, so he's really like 350 lbs. Then Ken came over in his bone stock 90 Talon, and he wanted some. He hooked up nitrous in the parking lot and i bet he trapped like 110 or 112 because he was on the stock exhaust. DAMN dude, he is so cocky. He beat this ws-6 on 270 with a lid, catback, but this guy had Dan Weaver sitting in his car with a video camera.. and that's almost as worst as having a Hua riding in the car. It's like losing 2 or 3 tenths and 5 mph.

I'll race you after, I get my new gt42 turbo, transmission, tube header, side exiting exhaust, AEM EMS with AFC, titanium pistons with apex sealed rings, volk te-37 LE magnesium rims. But only after i get it tuned and running right. I ONLY race on the street .... 60 MPH roll to 200 MPH.. if you can't hit 200, don't bring it.

FUCK YEAH BITCHES!

DQ Driver
06-08-2005, 01:22 PM
cliff notes:

NO ONE FUCKING CARES

-to pat you on the back
-about your street racing
-about your shop affiliation
-etc etc etc
-etc etc
-etc

just go away

Shearer
06-08-2005, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by luong88888
...on his skinny white ass...

Why does everything always have to be racial with you?:P

Renner19
06-08-2005, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by luong88888
Street racing is the best...Half a car length leads and jumping the gun are my personal favorites.

I raced Mike C's car last year on the way back from the track and I pulled a buslengh on his skinny white ass in his car that trapped mid 120's. He dynoed at 660awhp/600ft/lbs tq. Then he upped the jets in his nitrous so, I would guess he at least trapped like 135 because the next time I raced him I barely won because turned up my boost and dialed it in after I swapped my exhaust and air filter. The next day his dad came down in a mid 90's Dodge Caravan and helped him put a coat of wax on his car, resulting in a lower coefficient of drag. But Mike C's neighbor came stopped over and challenged us to a race from a dig, 20/40/60/80/100 mph roll in his diesel work truck, 1000gsx-r, and harley davidson roadster. His bike runs 10's but I beat him by at least 4 car lengths up to 120mph. He like 300 lbs of pure muscle mass and everyone knows muscle weighs more than fat, so he's really like 350 lbs. Then Ken came over in his bone stock 90 Talon, and he wanted some. He hooked up nitrous in the parking lot and i bet he trapped like 110 or 112 because he was on the stock exhaust. DAMN dude, he is so cocky. He beat this ws-6 on 270 with a lid, catback, but this guy had Dan Weaver sitting in his car with a video camera.. and that's almost as worst as having a Hua riding in the car. It's like losing 2 or 3 tenths and 5 mph.

I'll race you after, I get my new gt42 turbo, transmission, tube header, side exiting exhaust, AEM EMS with AFC, titanium pistons with apex sealed rings, volk te-37 LE magnesium rims. But only after i get it tuned and running right. I ONLY race on the street .... 60 MPH roll to 200 MPH.. if you can't hit 200, don't bring it.

FUCK YEAH BITCHES!


The entire purpose of any car ever built is to obtain the lowest possible ET on a single ?glory pass? at all costs right? :rolleyes:

It's a good thing you have that timeslip that you hold onto so tightly, and that you so proudly display to ALL your friends on the internet to prove that you are indeed so much better then everybody else who hasn't yet achieved such unreachable heights. Because, without that piece of paper with numbers on it that states for a fact how awesome you really are, you would just be another loser kid on a message board comfortably spewing shit from behind the safety of his keyboard. Oh wait... :confused

For somebody who doesn't care that much, you sure have a strange habit of bringing up anything involving us (and jumping in with the usual bullshit) every single chance you can get. How long were you holding onto that vid of Jeff's run again? Does watching that vid make you feel better about yourself? lol

Mike C
06-08-2005, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by Renner19
Because, without that piece of paper with numbers on it that states for a fact how awesome you really are, you would just be another loser kid on a message board comfortably spewing shit from behind the safety of his keyboard. Oh wait... :confused


PS..I bet Mikey(AKA loser kid) makes more money than you do;)

Renner19
06-08-2005, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by Mike C
PS..I bet Mikey(AKA loser kid) makes more money than you do;)

I'll gladly take that wager. ;)

VR4OOOM
06-08-2005, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by Renner19
I'll gladly take that wager. ;)

I had a funny feeling you would :P

$80/hr is chicken feed around here smarty pants ;)

EDIT: Be prepared to break out that W2, its all about the time ...er...slip :D

coltboostin
06-09-2005, 01:18 PM
Wow, I though this thread was deleted. Here we go again...




Originally posted by Renner19
Hmm, over 70 views since the vid that shows me running the LPE TT Vette was posted, and not one person has made any comments on it. I'm disappointed! lol



Shit did not load. BE avaiable the day I come down to play nice with Linn.35.

obie
06-11-2005, 05:47 AM
Bawahaha!!!!
Couldn't have been more sarcastic myself Mikey! I like it!

Jarod
06-11-2005, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by VR4OOOM
I had a funny feeling you would :P

$80/hr is chicken feed around here smarty pants ;)

EDIT: Be prepared to break out that W2, its all about the time ...er...slip :D

Wow someone needed to boost their ego

Gunner
06-11-2005, 05:34 PM
You'd think that someone making $160k+/year would have more to show for their trouble. Hmmph, oh well.

DQ Driver
09-02-2005, 09:15 PM
*bump*...

this is a popular thread today!