No start issue today on 70

**willyp20** · 02-08-2010, 09:04 PM

Well I was heading down to IPS to pick up my fuel pump today after work and did alittle detouring because of the damn grid lock of Columbus. And I came up to some more traffic and It was in and out on the clutch. Well the last time I went to take off the neo filickered and then came back on well when it flickered it acted like it was going to stall well right after it came back on it died. And would not start back up. I figured it was a coil issue so I got a screwdriver from the road worriers that were at the crash infront of me and stuck it in a plug wire and had the guy turn it over. Well no spark. So I went through all my connections at the coil and my connections at the ecu. Well all of the connections were good. After this I tried to start it again and it would not start. As I noticed the neo was no longer on. What in the hell could cause this. I was towed to a buddys house where the car is currently sitting, waiting on me for tomorrow after work to trouble shoot. Where do I start?

**272ownzu** · 02-08-2010, 09:05 PM

cam sensor?

**willyp20** · 02-08-2010, 09:07 PM

Why would that make my neo not come on when the switch is on?

**BRlover** · 02-08-2010, 09:31 PM

**VETTE_50_TH** · 02-08-2010, 11:57 PM

Maybe the Neo died?

**90tsiguy** · 02-09-2010, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VETTE_50_TH

Maybe the Neo died?

**Mark** · 02-09-2010, 10:41 PM

Sorry- I'm either dumb or drunk tonight: Does Neo refer to underbody neon lights?

**willyp20** · 02-09-2010, 07:40 AM

It doesnt smell burnt though. I thought about that too. I am going to dig into it tonight at my buddys house. Prolly pull the back of the neo off and see if there is any burnt traces. For some reason I feel like its my ECU though. But it has never given me issues like a faulty ECU would.

**272ownzu** · 02-09-2010, 08:19 AM

cam sensor for the no spark issue, or a ecu for the entire deal. If you had a idea it was the ecu pull the ecu out and open it up. or smell it if it smells like mike c then you have a burnt ecu..

**272ownzu** · 02-09-2010, 08:19 AM

aka fishy

**CarWhore** · 02-09-2010, 08:58 AM

ecu caps took a dump

**VETTE_50_TH** · 02-09-2010, 09:12 AM

I might have an extra laying around. Not sure.

**willyp20** · 02-09-2010, 09:46 AM

There is a guy that has a 1991 FWD eprom for sale. I am going to trade him my greddy type s for it. Its just a matter of getting down to him this week. And Im going to pull the cover off the ecu and see if that is the issue tonight. If not... well thats a whole nother story. I really hope that the neo didnt get burnt to a crisp.

**turbobill** · 02-09-2010, 09:54 AM

Are you pulling power for the neo from the ecu harness? Maybe it blown the fuse

**willyp20** · 02-09-2010, 10:20 AM

Yes its wired into the harness. The MPI fuse under the hood is still good. I also switched the fuses to see if that was the one that was bad and burnt down inside where I couldnt see it and still the same results. Am I mistaken on which fuse is for the ecu?

02-08-2010, 09:04 PM	#1
willyp20 Premium Member 1992 GVR4 794/1000 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Delaware area Posts: 2,007	No start issue today on 70 Well I was heading down to IPS to pick up my fuel pump today after work and did alittle detouring because of the damn grid lock of Columbus. And I came up to some more traffic and It was in and out on the clutch. Well the last time I went to take off the neo filickered and then came back on well when it flickered it acted like it was going to stall well right after it came back on it died. And would not start back up. I figured it was a coil issue so I got a screwdriver from the road worriers that were at the crash infront of me and stuck it in a plug wire and had the guy turn it over. Well no spark. So I went through all my connections at the coil and my connections at the ecu. Well all of the connections were good. After this I tried to start it again and it would not start. As I noticed the neo was no longer on. What in the hell could cause this. I was towed to a buddys house where the car is currently sitting, waiting on me for tomorrow after work to trouble shoot. Where do I start? __________________ 1992 Galant VR4 794/1000 8.3:1 wiseco pistons, Manley H-Beam rods, ARP Rod bolts and head studs, MLS head gasket, Clevit bearings, Both BS are gone, BC 272 cams, Manley valve springs and TI retainers, Stock 2g exhaust Manni with a HKS 38mm W/G with external dump, Holset HX35 with a BEP bolt on hotside, Big FMIC, Venom SMIM, 4" FP intake to turbo pipe, 1000cc RCs, Aeromotive AFPR, Wally 255, AEM Wideband, Tuning on SD W/ Jackal, Fidanza LWF, Southbend Stage 5 W/Cryo treatment.

02-08-2010, 09:05 PM	#2
272ownzu Premium Member first to reach 1000 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: working on my dsm Posts: 2,479	cam sensor? __________________ 1G 9.70 AT 143 granny shifting 2G 11.48 at 134 spinning balls off evo 11.89 at 116 STILL stock turbo columbus dsm record 06 cummins 11.68 at 120 alot of fuel and a big spinny thing

02-08-2010, 09:07 PM	#3
willyp20 Premium Member 1992 GVR4 794/1000 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Delaware area Posts: 2,007	Why would that make my neo not come on when the switch is on? __________________ 1992 Galant VR4 794/1000 8.3:1 wiseco pistons, Manley H-Beam rods, ARP Rod bolts and head studs, MLS head gasket, Clevit bearings, Both BS are gone, BC 272 cams, Manley valve springs and TI retainers, Stock 2g exhaust Manni with a HKS 38mm W/G with external dump, Holset HX35 with a BEP bolt on hotside, Big FMIC, Venom SMIM, 4" FP intake to turbo pipe, 1000cc RCs, Aeromotive AFPR, Wally 255, AEM Wideband, Tuning on SD W/ Jackal, Fidanza LWF, Southbend Stage 5 W/Cryo treatment.

02-08-2010, 09:31 PM	#4
BRlover Registered User faster than you Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 266	__________________ I'm back and fa(s)tter than you ever remembered... so kiss my ass

02-09-2010, 07:40 AM	#8
willyp20 Premium Member 1992 GVR4 794/1000 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Delaware area Posts: 2,007	It doesnt smell burnt though. I thought about that too. I am going to dig into it tonight at my buddys house. Prolly pull the back of the neo off and see if there is any burnt traces. For some reason I feel like its my ECU though. But it has never given me issues like a faulty ECU would. __________________ 1992 Galant VR4 794/1000 8.3:1 wiseco pistons, Manley H-Beam rods, ARP Rod bolts and head studs, MLS head gasket, Clevit bearings, Both BS are gone, BC 272 cams, Manley valve springs and TI retainers, Stock 2g exhaust Manni with a HKS 38mm W/G with external dump, Holset HX35 with a BEP bolt on hotside, Big FMIC, Venom SMIM, 4" FP intake to turbo pipe, 1000cc RCs, Aeromotive AFPR, Wally 255, AEM Wideband, Tuning on SD W/ Jackal, Fidanza LWF, Southbend Stage 5 W/Cryo treatment.

02-08-2010, 11:57 PM	#5
VETTE_50_TH My Ass Got Banned 98 Eclipse GSX Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Upper Arlington Posts: 695	Maybe the Neo died?

02-09-2010, 10:41 PM	#7
Mark Registered User 98 Eclipse GSX Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 50	Sorry- I'm either dumb or drunk tonight: Does Neo refer to underbody neon lights?

02-09-2010, 08:19 AM	#9
272ownzu Premium Member first to reach 1000 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: working on my dsm Posts: 2,479	cam sensor for the no spark issue, or a ecu for the entire deal. If you had a idea it was the ecu pull the ecu out and open it up. or smell it if it smells like mike c then you have a burnt ecu.. __________________ 1G 9.70 AT 143 granny shifting 2G 11.48 at 134 spinning balls off evo 11.89 at 116 STILL stock turbo columbus dsm record 06 cummins 11.68 at 120 alot of fuel and a big spinny thing

02-09-2010, 08:19 AM	#10
272ownzu Premium Member first to reach 1000 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: working on my dsm Posts: 2,479	aka fishy __________________ 1G 9.70 AT 143 granny shifting 2G 11.48 at 134 spinning balls off evo 11.89 at 116 STILL stock turbo columbus dsm record 06 cummins 11.68 at 120 alot of fuel and a big spinny thing

02-09-2010, 08:58 AM	#11
CarWhore Paid Member 92 Galant VR-4 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Etna/Pataskala Posts: 1,833	ecu caps took a dump __________________ 1992 Galant VR-4 #621/1000 Dust Collector www.galantvr4.org Tuned to 22psi D-oesnt S-tart M-uch thecarcompanyonline.com Since everyone has a team JR Racing Longest Jackstand baller!

02-09-2010, 09:12 AM	#12
VETTE_50_TH My Ass Got Banned 98 Eclipse GSX Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Upper Arlington Posts: 695	I might have an extra laying around. Not sure.

02-09-2010, 09:46 AM	#13
willyp20 Premium Member 1992 GVR4 794/1000 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Delaware area Posts: 2,007	There is a guy that has a 1991 FWD eprom for sale. I am going to trade him my greddy type s for it. Its just a matter of getting down to him this week. And Im going to pull the cover off the ecu and see if that is the issue tonight. If not... well thats a whole nother story. I really hope that the neo didnt get burnt to a crisp. __________________ 1992 Galant VR4 794/1000 8.3:1 wiseco pistons, Manley H-Beam rods, ARP Rod bolts and head studs, MLS head gasket, Clevit bearings, Both BS are gone, BC 272 cams, Manley valve springs and TI retainers, Stock 2g exhaust Manni with a HKS 38mm W/G with external dump, Holset HX35 with a BEP bolt on hotside, Big FMIC, Venom SMIM, 4" FP intake to turbo pipe, 1000cc RCs, Aeromotive AFPR, Wally 255, AEM Wideband, Tuning on SD W/ Jackal, Fidanza LWF, Southbend Stage 5 W/Cryo treatment.

02-09-2010, 09:54 AM	#14
turbobill Registered User 92 talon Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: wheeling wv Posts: 182	Are you pulling power for the neo from the ecu harness? Maybe it blown the fuse __________________ New build in progress

02-09-2010, 10:20 AM	#15
willyp20 Premium Member 1992 GVR4 794/1000 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Delaware area Posts: 2,007	Yes its wired into the harness. The MPI fuse under the hood is still good. I also switched the fuses to see if that was the one that was bad and burnt down inside where I couldnt see it and still the same results. Am I mistaken on which fuse is for the ecu? __________________ 1992 Galant VR4 794/1000 8.3:1 wiseco pistons, Manley H-Beam rods, ARP Rod bolts and head studs, MLS head gasket, Clevit bearings, Both BS are gone, BC 272 cams, Manley valve springs and TI retainers, Stock 2g exhaust Manni with a HKS 38mm W/G with external dump, Holset HX35 with a BEP bolt on hotside, Big FMIC, Venom SMIM, 4" FP intake to turbo pipe, 1000cc RCs, Aeromotive AFPR, Wally 255, AEM Wideband, Tuning on SD W/ Jackal, Fidanza LWF, Southbend Stage 5 W/Cryo treatment.

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